Art: On an 8' deep vertical riser. If the first 5'-0" is C900 vertical, then you use a MJ Sleeve to couple a flanged DIP piece 3'-6" on top up through the floor. Your restraint rods will need to extend from the elbow at the base of the riser up to the flange connection on top of the DIP.
Also Uni-flange and Megalug both offer several ways to put flanges on C900. Thom McMahon, SET Firetech, Inc. 2560 Copper Ridge Dr P.O. Box 882136 Steamboat Springs, CO 80488 Tel: 970-879-7952 Fax: 970-879-7926 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arthur Tiroly Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 1:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: 13, 2007 23.1.6.1.2 Then the rise from the base elbow must always be metallic pipe. How would you go from PVC to steel above the floor if you don't have a flange or a groove to work with? Art/ATCO -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Sornsin Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 2:42 PM To: '[email protected]' Subject: RE: 13, 2007 23.1.6.1.2 Thom: I think it does. I've allowed this when the contractors have ignored my plans and specs and installed it "the way we always do" with the C900 through the floor. My only hesitation comes from the fact that I never get to be on site when the work is being done, so I am a bit afraid to allow another joint below the slab. Still, if they install it properly, with all the restraints, etc., then I can 't see why it wouldn't meet minimum requirements. Mark A. Sornsin, PE Fire Protection Engineer Ulteig Engineers, Inc. Fargo, ND -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thom McMahon Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 2:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: 13, 2007 23.1.6.1.2 Based upon the handbook interpretation PVC (C900) cannot be used above the floor to supply the fire systems, because it is subject to Mech. damage, solvent attack, or corrosive solutions. And as the commentary addresses it is not listed as "Above ground Piping" So we have a project where one AHJ allowed the underground guy to install C900 up to the transition to cast iron @ the backflow, and a second AHJ over ruled the first AHJ quoting 23.1.6.1.2. (Second AHJ after rough inspection completed by 1st AHJ) The riser is located in a very small room, and the main under the footer is at least 8' down to the MJ 90' ell. If the CG gets the underground guy to dig down only 3'-0" installs a MJ sleeve, and then a Ductile Flange spool extension through the floor to the BFP. And this entire assembly is restrained to the MJ 90' elbow at the base. Question: Does this meet the requirements of NFPA 13, chapter 10 and 23? (The PVC will be underground, where it's listed to be.)I personally believe it does, but I would like to hear from you all. Thom McMahon, SET Firetech, Inc. 2560 Copper Ridge Dr P.O. Box 882136 Steamboat Springs, CO 80488 Tel: 970-879-7952 Fax: 970-879-7926 _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.7/1632 - Release Date: 8/25/2008 7:05 AM _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
