I have the upmost respect for Dr. Beyler and Hughes (worked there for a
short period).  Not for a second would I believe the paper was slanted for
any reason.  In the interest of fuller disclosure only, this was developed
for the smoke and heat venting interest groups when there was consideration
of removing ALL smoke venting in sprinklered buildings from the I codes. Not
just limited to the ESFR exception we know today.   

The AFSA and the other "evil" sprinkler interest group do the same thing to
defend and promote our industry.  IMHO this was the beginning of the current
"balanced design" movement.        

Chris Cahill, P.E.
Fire Protection Engineer
Sentry Fire Protection, Inc.
 
763-658-4483
763-658-4921 fax
 
Email: [email protected]
 
Mail: P.O. Box 69
        Waverly, MN 55390
 
Location: 4439 Hwy 12 SW
              Waverly, MN 55390

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Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:41 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: ESFR and Smoke Vents

There have been some heated debates on this issue.  I have a White Paper
which outlined numerous testing scenarios with vents, curtains and
sprinklers.  


Here is the Conclusion of the research.


INTERACTION OF SPRINKLERS WITH SMOKE AND HEAT VENTS
Craig L. Beyler and Leonard Y. Cooper
Hughes Associates, Inc. - Fire Science and Engineering
Baltimore, Maryland  1999

"CONCLUSIONS
The studies of smoke and heat venting used in conjunction with sprinklers
show clearly that
venting does not have a negative effect on sprinkler performance. Successful
performance of
sprinklers does not rely upon reduced oxygen concentrations. Venting has
been shown to have
no effect on the activation times of early sprinklers and does not affect
the total number of
sprinklers activated. If the fire is directly beneath a vent, activations of
the first sprinklers may
be delayed slightly, but there is no evidence that this will have a
significant impact on sprinkler
performance.
Experimental studies have shown that venting does limit the spread of
products of combustion by
releasing them from the building within the curtained compartment of fire
origin. This improves
visibility for building occupants and firefighters who need to find the seat
of the fire to complete
fire extinguishment. Limiting the spread of smoke and heat also reduces
smoke and heat damage 
to the building. In the event that sprinklers do not operate, venting
remains a valuable aid to
manual control of the fire.
The experimental studies have shown that early vent activation has no
detrimental effects on
sprinkler performance and have also shown that current design practices are
likely to limit the
number of vents operated to one and vents may in fact not operate at all in
very successful
sprinkler operations. Design practices should move to methods which assure
early operation of
vents, and vent operation should be ganged so that the benefit of roof vents
is fully realized.
Sprinkler design with vents and draft curtains needs to take full account of
draft curtains as
obstructions. Curtains should be placed in aisles rather than over storage."



If anyone would like the full text which includes the various testing
scenarios, e-mail me and I'll send you a copy.


Craig L. Prahl, CET   
Fire Protection Specialist
Mechanical Department
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
Direct - 864.599.4102
Fax - 864.599.8439
[email protected]
http://www.ch2m.com 


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