Rodney,

I deal with these problems all the time.  The sprinkler system MUST have
some air in it or an expansion tank otherwise the pressure will "jack" up to
high pressures.  We see this problem every time a check valve is installed
in a domestic water system where there is a water heater downstream.  Cold
water fills the system and is then heated, say from 50 to 130.  The
volumetric expansion of water is very high when compared to the linear
expansion of the copper water pipes (or the steel pipes of a sprinkler
system) and the water will drain out of the PRV.  If it doesn't have one,
something breaks as explained below.

As with most real systems, it can be extremely complicated to exactly model
and calculate precisely what happens.  Assume that water expands when
heated, albeit a small amount. This amount is about .000207/degree C at 68F.
For a 1% change in volume and assuming the factor is constant (it isn't), we
would need to heat the water 48 degrees C or about 87 F.

Also assume that water is somewhat compressible.  Table 5.4 of Eshbach's
Handbook of Engineering Fundamentals, 4th Edition, lists the compressibility
(K or Beta) of water at 68F as 318,000 PSI where dP=dV*K  This means for a
1% change in volume, the pressure would go up or down 3,180 PSI.

IF we assume a completely sealed rigid container full of water, not too
unlike a sprinkler system, then we just need to equate the thermal expansion
of water to the compressibility of water.  This way, the change in volume
cancels out.  In other words, if we heated the water 87F, then the pressure
would rise 3,180 PSI.  This rough calculation indicates that the pressure
would theoretically increase about 36 PSI per degree F.

Now in real life, the pipes also expand because of the temperature rise (2X
the linear expansion rate) AND because the pressure rise of the water
stresses the material so it also elastically expands.  If there are any
gaskets that allow the pipes to move a little in the groove, that changes
things a little.  So you can see the actual pressure rise is difficult to
calculate but what happens is that the actual pressure rise in a system is a
lot less than that rigid container calculation shown above.  This is how we
select expansion tanks, see
http://www.watts.com/pro/divisions/watersafety_flowcontrol/learnabout/learna
bout_thermexpansion.asp  It's a good explanation why it is so very dangerous
to overfill a propane tank.  The liquid will expand until the tank goes
"hydraulic" and then it burps over the PRV with a very little change in
temperature.

General rules of thumb:  Water compressibility 318,000 PSI, Glycerin =
630,000 PSI. Glycerin can exert twice the force assuming the same
temperature change, another reason to have the right expansion tanks on an
antifreeze system.

Air (assuming ideal) P2 = P1*V1/V2.  Halve the volume, double the absolute
pressure, quite compressible.
  
P2 = P1*T2/T1  Double the absolute temperature and you double the absolute
pressure.  As an example, for a temperature rise of air in a rigid container
from 68F to 98F and a system pressure of 75 PSIA, the pressure would
increase to 75*(98+460)/(68+460) or 79.3 PSIA.   For those that read gauges,
essentially from 60 to 64 PSI.

Hope this clears up why trapped air pockets DON'T cause significant pressure
increases with temperature and why air free systems "dangerously" increase
in pressure with rises in temperature.

Michael

Michael M. Fitz, P.E., C.F.I.
MDE Inc.
700 S. Industrial Way
Seattle, WA  98108
www.MDE.com
206-321-1804

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In summary, I guess I am simply trying to state that trapped air pockets
will create a more significant pressure increase or decrease in a closed
sprinkler system than water when the temperature changes. 

I will absolutely admit that I cannot explain mathematically why we see such
drastic pressure increases in the numerous wet sprinkler systems where we
have identified and resolved these issues (based strictly on Charles's Law,
the pressure increases should not be so extreme), but I can state that the
excessive pressure problem is completely resolved after we bleed off a
significant amount of the trapped air pockets. This is not a theory, this is
absolute real world action with undeniable results. Some systems relieve air
for 20-40 minutes through multiple sprinkler heads (loosened enough to hear
and feel the air escape from the system at the various high points). After
we remove a significant amount of the trapped air, the problem is resolved.
And to address the obvious question, the problem is resolved even without a
175 psi PRV (we do not always provide the 175 psi PRV, but we typically
recommend them for gridded systems; some clients agree to provide them, but
some decide against paying for the 175 psi PRV).

Rodney K. Hamm, P.E.
President/Owner
Falcon Fire Protection
Office  (478) 953-1677

Cell  (478) 396-6988

 

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