Ron,
We have had to do all three ways depending on the jurisdiction.  Most of our
rural fire marshal will use either NFPA 13 or 1142 without any
modifications.  I have had a few jurisdictions where they do require you to
combine both site (CFC) and sprinkler flow (NFPA 13).  

Usually in our cases, if the tank supplies a fire hydrant and fire sprinkler
system, whatever the site demands is and the required sprinkler demand, it
is added to size the tank.  These situations are ones I never touch until I
have discussed it with the local authority.  

Thanks,
Gregg Fontes
Cen-Cal Fire Systems, Inc.
(209)334-9119
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Johnston
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 1:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Fire Flow

Ron,

Is this in a rural setting?  As Craig suggested lots of times you only need
to size for the sprinkler demand and associated hose allowance with this
scenario.  It sounds like your project is in a rural setting, IFC Appendix B
B103.3 allows the use of NFPA 1142 in areas without water supplies provided
that the AHJ accepts it.  I have utilized this numerous times in Eastern
Washington and Oregon, you still need to provide enough hydrants though but
you don't have to provide the IFC required fire flow for the particular
building. 

Jim Johnston, P.E.
Fire Protection Engineer
Inland Fire Protection, Inc
1100 Ahtanum Road
Yakima, WA 98903
Phone 509-248-4471
Fax 509-248-1180
[email protected]

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Greenman [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 12:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Fire Flow

The reduction has already been approved. The fire flow demand is to
supply a hydrant on the property. My question is (and no fire marshal
to ask today),is the sprinkler demand included or need to be added?
This tank supplies all fire water needs (no jokes-I know what you're
all thinking) for this property.



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