You always start with a guess. Try this and it doesn't work don't do that again. If it works then do it a lot. Hammurabi didn't dictate how to build a building, just what the punishments would be if you blew it. Want to build your mud bricks a little smaller than standard, go ahead, we'll see what happens. Oops. Clint dead. Deep do-do.
The first spacing rules I can find are from John Wormald (really good guesser) and EH is 60 sqft max and OH is 90 sqft. That's it. On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Brad Casterline <[email protected]> wrote: > Most sprinkler people are shocked when I tell them that Roland, but it is > true. "had nothing to do with fire", not 'have'. > Early '70s Kansas City, Ks contractor with big 3M projects, lots of 8" > pipe. > "What if we make the 2nd piece 1.25" instead of 1"?, could we make the main > 6"? The first calculations were done to compare what a scheduled system > would produce with a low, medium, and high Water Supply, and VOILA!... > calcs > are born. Another quote from the same man is "pipe scheduled systems had > worked fine for 90 years at the time", so why bring fire into it? :) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sprinklerforum [mailto: > [email protected]] > On Behalf Of Roland Huggins > Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 2:38 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Beauty Salon/Day Spa > > I'm at a loss in how one could say the curves have nothing to do with the > fire while the definitions are all about fire related variables. Granted > they are not quantified but are relative descriptions of a fire. > > > Roland Huggins, PE - VP Engineering > American Fire Sprinkler Assn. --- Fire Sprinklers Saves Lives > Dallas, TX > http://www.firesprinkler.org <http://www.firesprinkler.org/> > > > > > > > On Mar 6, 2015, at 12:31 PM, Brad Casterline <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Actually, if one thinks about it, IBC has as much to do with density as > NFPA > > 13 does in a way, because the density/area curves "had nothing to do with > > fire" according to the first person to use the curves (he invented them). > > NFPA #13 Occupancy Classifications are based on Low, Moderate and High, > > Quan/Comb and HRR, and "example occupancies" are given instead of > numbers. > > > > Brad > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > -- Ron Greenman Instructor Fire Protection Engineering Technology Bates Technical College 1101 So. Yakima Ave. Tacoma, WA 98405 [email protected] http://www.bates.ctc.edu/fireprotection/ 253.680.7346 253.576.9700 (cell) Member: ASEE, SFPE, ASCET, NFPA, AFSA, NFSA, AFAA, NIBS, WSAFM, WFC, WFSC They are happy men whose natures sort with their vocations. -Francis Bacon, essayist, philosopher, and statesman (1561-1626) A problem well stated is a problem half solved. -Charles F. Kettering, inventor and engineer (1876-1958) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
