Then just do standard spray sprinklers at 130 sq ft max spacing. Reduce the design area to 900 sq ft. Use 4.2k sprinklers to keep the over-discharge down. I think you are correct in using the insulation for your ceiling to locate your deflectors.

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On 11/21/2016 4:01 PM, Ben Young wrote:
Travis,

I actually don't want to use CC heads because of the onerous draft stopping requirements, so that's a negative.
Space is heated, so we're talking wet system here.


Benjamin Young

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 3:10 PM, Travis Mack, SET <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I would say you have combustible framing members less than 3' on
    center so you are limited to 130 sq ft spacing.  If the space is
    less than 60" deep, you may want to consider something like the
    Tyco CC3 and get up to 16' spacing at 256 sq ft.  Also, the design
    area would be reduced.  You would have 1950 sq ft with SSU,
    assuming this is dry, or 1300 sq ft with CC3, again, assuming it
    is dry.

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    On 11/21/2016 12:56 PM, Ben Young wrote:
    So I have a crawl space that was originally supposed to get
    drywall on the underside of the trusses, but now the owner wants
    sprinklers instead.
    This is inside an apartment building of type VB construction
    under the ground floor.  The crawl space is more than 36" deep,
    so it doesn't require CC heads.
    My question is how the heck do I treat the spacing for the heads
    I'm going to install?
    The structure is 14" deep TJIs that are stuffed with non-faced
    batt insulation that's held in place by furring strips.  My gut
    is telling me its not a smooth flat ceiling, but its also not
    exactly combustible obstructed either.
    At this point, I don't even know whether I should consider it
    obstructed or unobstructed.
    I'm leaning towards the insulation will act as a ceiling and I
    can go 1-12 down from the bottom of the truss, and do 225 SQFT
    spacing, but can't find anything to assuage my fears in the code.
    This project was submitted under the 2010 edition of 13, but the
    AHJ now has adopted 2013, FYI.
    I looked through 8.15.1 but that doesn't really tell me HOW to
    space in these areas, just if I can omit or not... also didn't
    find too much of use in the AFSA informal interps.
    Any thoughts on this?
    Benjamin Young

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