hi, On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 08:36:47AM +0200, Marc Gemis wrote: > I didn't say anybody claim that. I'm just wondering whether it failed. So > far we haven't seen a country that is capable to add the same amount of > address data by crowd-surfing as the imports in Denmark or The Netherlands. > So how many mappers do we need to add the same amount of address data in a > reasonable timeframe ? Is this number feasible ?
We dont need to - OSM is about crowdsourcing. As soon as adresses get more important people start adding them. This is what happens now. We took care about road network for getting routability. We started adding buildings for the look of the map. Now we discover the lack of geocoding capabilities we start adding Addresses. Google is also missing between 10-20% of the German Adresses. They interpolate and guess where necessary. > How long will users accept that missing data ? Will they switch to OSM > navigation without that data ? Yes they will and they did already. I have tons of friends which i showed "Mapfactor Navigator" and all of them use it because it is a GREAT tool showing OSM capabilities. We lived without addresses in navigational devices for a long time. The first TomToms did only sporadically contain address informations. > Maybe I'm exaggerating, but when I read that there are thousands of paid > employees that keep the BAG up-to-date, how can the current mapping > population in Belgium handle this ? The thousands of people do a lot more than what WE need. > Just because there is much more data than mappers can handle by surveys. You seem to overestimate the correctness of municipal Data. Its the same bullshit everywhere. I have access to more than OSM Datasets and they are broken as OSM is - in different aspects but still they are. When you have 2 Datasets of addresses you most likely will have 10-20% of Addresses you cant easily match in the other Dataset. > I'm not saying OSM as an open database is failing. I just think the > survey+map model requires many more people than we'll ever find. You are too impatient and you fail to see the great results we already produced. OSM is the most valuable GeoDataset available worldwide. There are hundrets of services using OSM in production already. Addresses is "the last big thing" we miss for example in Germany. But still - Out of the 200 countries world wide i guess 100 dont even have an Adressing scheme. More than halve of the worlds population dont HAVE an Address. You can not send them a postcard and they cant order on Amazon. And you talk about OSM beeing useless because we dont have the 1% of Addresses in our surrounding? Just to get this into perspective. Flo -- Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de
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