On 20-09-2000 at 02:38, jbelk kindly wrote:
> Hey Karin,
Karin>> If you'd have the third filter as number one, _everything_
Karin>> that is not strictly addressed to you will immediately go to
Karin>> Trash, and that you certainly don't want.
> Judging by what I usually receive it wouldn't be a lick amiss.
Ah, but the person who asked said that they wanted to g
every mail that didn't list them -personally_ in the To:
filed go to Trash. Look at the TB mail: it doesn't list you
in the To: field.
And I must admit I am a tad amazed. I have been on the net
since 1994 and have quite a presence on Usenet. Yes, I
receive spam, but usally not more than 5 to 10 per day.
Doesn't mean that I like it, but it's not that bad.
Karin>> Go to the Options tab and tick Continue Processing With
Karin>> Other Folders.
> First, I've heard of this. It seems to not be the default but is
> necessary to make the filter work right. I re-read the help files and didn't see
>it there.
> Should this box be checked on all filters? OR just all but the last
> one?
Yes, do check it on other filters as well. Having it
unchecked means that once this particular filter has been
invoked, TB stops filtering -- while you a\want it to go on
to the next mail and the next filter.
Karin>> Done. Now you have a basic filter that automatically moves
Karin>> your TB mail to your TB folder.
> It actually WORKS!!!!!
<grin>
Imagine me telling you how to filter. I only downloaded TB
for evaluation purposes this Saturday ;-)
Karin>> Do the same for other mailinglists that you are on (very
Karin>> often they don't list _you_ in the To: field, but use the
Karin>> mailing list address), and *only then* add the filter that
Karin>> makes everything that has NOT you in the To: field move to
Karin>> trash:
Karin>> String: !<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (don't forget the !, it
Karin>> means: not)
Karin>> Location: Recipient
Karin>> Presence: yes
Karin>> And have those move to Trash.
> This sure is counter intuitive to my way of thinking. The FIRST
> filter I set up in any program is one that blocks the hundreds of spam
> messages that flood all email addys that have been around for a while.
In that case, make a filter containing the _old_ e-mail
addys and have them go to Trash straight away...
> Is it a bug to add new filters at the bottom of the list??
No, but how can TB decide for you what order you want your
filters to be in?
> And what is the difference between the "!<address>" and "Presence:
> No ?"
> Seems to me it's the same thing just more convoluted.
You're right. Use "Presence: no". The "!" means 'not', but
TB accomodates for that expression.
Karin>> I'd very much advise you to carefully look at your Trash in
Karin>> the following days, and when you find something that _is_
Karin>> inded meant for you, make a new filter for that, or adjust
Karin>> existing ones.
> So does this mean every time a new spam sneaks through existing
> filters I'll have to create a new filter for it, open the Sorting
> Office/Filters and move the new filter somewhere else?
I was advising about checking in Trash -- perhaps you'll
find something that didn't need to be trashed.
But when you find something in your inbox that managed to
get through - although having no _you_ in the To: field -
then you might want to adjust your filter. Then again, you
only filter for _regular_ occasions, not for the off e-mail:
that ine you can send to Trash manually.
> Is there a way
> to just add the latest intruder to the existing spam filter?
Yes, by adding it's characteristic trait in the filter,
using the "Alternatives"tab (I just learnt this myself). It
adds rules, and treats the victims in the same fashion as
the general (or first) rule).
[TB novices]
> A first weeks impression from a 7 year veteran of basic email:
> I HATE fixed fonts!!!
Hi, mate. Me too ;-)
> I'd like to see auto complete for addresses.
The History file in TB does part of the trick, and once you
have lemma's in the Address Book, TB _will_ autocomplete. I
think...
> I NEED auto correct in the spell checker becuase my fingers are
> ignorant adn always gets certain words wrong. :-)
<grin> People here are more lenient than they appear at
first sight. Ask me. I got into a fight on my first night
here, and now we seem buddies.
> Filters should be simple questions:
> Do you want to File this message to a certain place?
> Delete this message and every one like it?
> Delete them from the server too?
Dear, filters are never simple and can't be: if only because
the simple and fortright rule IF not A then do B does
something completely different when it's on top of your
filters as compared to being last of them.
When one says: anything that has not "me"In the To: files
goes to Trash, you're going to get into quite some trouble
with TB, for instance: those mals don't have "you" in the
To: filed, so you want to get them filtered first (in order
to save them form the Trash).
> I strongly suggest the writers look closely at Forte' Agent's
> filter structure. It's simple enough for even me to use.
Ah, but versed users want more than simple filters... And
both Eudora and TB offer that. Hence, that are slightly more
complicated in use. But the have their own advantages.
For instance, with Eudora I was able to filter messages
so that a couple of stalkers got an immediate bounce using
Reply_with ( "Ms. Spaink doesn't want to read your e-mail
any more, HTH."), queue that reply, have it send, and mark
that original e-mail (so that I could stil read it), and
play a .wav file (so that I would know that they were at it
again).
You can do the same with TB, using a combination of
templates and filters.
- K -
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[Religion] is not merely the opium of the masses, it is
the cyanide.
- Tom Robbins: Skinny Legs and All
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