I understand that people will apply for a job whether or not they can 
 fill the position, but perhaps because I've never done this from the 
 hiring side it seems to me that putting a dollar amount wouldn't affect 
 it that much. I'd like to see something along the lines of what is 
 minimum, such as "Starting at $40k or DOE". Maybe I've just been at a 
 few jobs where the pay will be talked about like it's great and 
 competitive, but if I really dig (or watch the UPHPU-jobs listing) I'm 
 getting paid far less than what is out there. I'm also willing to admit 
 these feelings could be part of not wanting to get into another job like 
 the one I have now. On the face it seemed great and it has been, but the 
 longer I work here the more I find people are leaving almost in droves 
 because of pay and how they are being treated.

 --Brian

 On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 10:28:03 -0600, Kevin Gwynn wrote:
> Brian,
>
>    I understand your frustration from experience. Im more frequently
> in the hiring side though and dont know how I could list a salary
> easily. I often am looking to hire a senior developer but get lots of
> applicants who I dont consider to be senior. However, if I find
> someone good, Im not going to pass them up as a junior engineer.
> Obviously though, I wouldnt be willing to offer senior salary, so it
> would be difficult to advertise more than a really broad range.
>
> Saying "$50K to $100K" doesnt seem much more helpful. I usually say
> something like "competitive pay with good benefits". Im curious, do
> you have any specific suggestions? What would make it feel like youd
> want to look into a job listing more?
>
> Kevin

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