> On Jun 20, 2011 10:13 AM, "Brian J. Rogers" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >  Today I was looking around at possible job openings...

> >  It seemed like every job posting I found always listed
> >  "Depends on Experience/DOE" under the pay. Am I the only one that gets
> >  irritated by this? It seems completely arbitrary and gives the
> >  impression that my experience cannot have a set value. I understand that
> >  in most cases the more you know and can do the more you get paid, but
> >  can't a minimum at least be given?

...

> >  I just feel like
> >  without some notion of what an employer is willing to pay, I'm not
> >  willing to put forth time to find out.
> >
> >

On Jun 20, 2011 10:23 AM, "William Attwood" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
 However, companies that write DOE with no baseline may feel
> they are creating a better negotiating factor on their side, when to some of
> us, it makes us weary that their company isn't organized enough to figure
> out what they can afford.
>
> --Will

The other side of the coin is simply that $$ is too early in the
conversation. Maybe a minimum would be good, but honestly, if I put
minimum (or any number) in my postings, the next thread here would be
how I am a big, fat liar because I posted one number and offered
something else.

Some communities like dice require ranges. It's ok when everyone plays
by the rules.... the same rules, but unless there are clear rules
around how to state this and what numbers really mean, its really
better to judge the description, and, if they are a reasonable
company, the money should be pretty forthright pretty quick.

Thankfully, my philosophy and my employer's align in that where we
feel we find talented people and then do our best to meet their salary
requirements. There are other factors, of course, such as our budgets,
the other people's salaries on the team, etc., but for the most part,
the right person is generally within the salary budget that I have.
That is nice.

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