I asked Piantelli about how the hydrogen anion could enter a Ni atom and
approach the nucleus so closely when the anion itself is so big.  In my
thinking, if the anion had not become some type of compact body, it would
have experienced Coulombic repulsion long before the hydrogen nucleus ever
closely approached the Ni nucleus.  He said he had deduced what was
happening from his experimental data, and didn't have sufficient data to
say how it happened at the atomic and sub-atomic scale - it was just what
seemed to be happening from the observed branches of the reaction.
Remembering my DDL lore, I asked him if he had ever seen high energy
emissions in the reaction, and he said he had seen some 500keV emissions -
could this have been given up for the hydrogen anion to transition to a DDL
state?  He said he had no evidence of that.  He was not willing to publicly
speculate on details for which he had insufficient supporting data - a good
scientist's position.

I subsequently wrote to Jerry Vavra at SLAC to ask if he was aware of
anyone who may have solved Dirac's equation for a DDL state of the hydrogen
anion.  He was unaware that anyone had done this.  I have not asked this of
Meulenberg.

On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote:

> *From:* Bob Higgins
>
> Bob Cook wrote: One interesting item that Piantelli noted was important
> in the 90’s was the existence of a H(-1) ion.…
>
> BH: Piantelli believes that the hydrogen anion is complicit in Ni-H
> LENR.  He believes that the anion on the surface of his Ni rod is absorbed
> into a metal grain acting as a condensate when stimulated by a shock of
> various types.  The anion, thus absorbed, enters a Ni atom as though it
> were a muon.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Bob/Bob – As we have mentioned here for many years, the H anion
> explanation works far better if it is merged with Mills-inspired f/H-
> (which is a dense but stable negative ion, in contrast to the normal H-
> anion of Piantelli, which is extraordinarily unstable).
>
> CQM from the beginning envisions a stable anion which RM calls
> hydrino-hydride™. Due to trademark issues with that term, and the fact
> that the general concept works much better theoretically in the context of
> a single dense state (as opposed to the 137 steps of Mills) and the fact
> Mills persists in denying the nuclear origin of the gain, we find that a
> hybrid explanation is called for.
>
> We can combine Piantelli with Mills and Holmlid into the most succinct
> and instructive depiction of this anion – which is a dense stable negative
> ion, requiring charge neutralization (in the form of an alkali or s-block
> cation). Of course, there are the expected vanity impediments in promoting
> such a hybrid viewpoint. The composite explanation alienates purists in
> both the Mills and LENR camps (Holmlid doesn’t even have a camp yet) and
> pleases mainly those who are seeking the most accurate description,
> regardless of the twisted history.
>
> Jones
>

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