Mike sez:

> This discussion ignores the elephant in the room. a) Heat is *fundamental*
> and scalar, particles and radiation are not. Because it is fundamental, many
> factors affect heat and careful experimental technique is essential. b)
> Commercial value [i.e. money] is for utility for motive power and
> electricity. Even the Tokomaks and ITER output will be *heat*. Until LENR
> devices/systems produce *heat* cheaply and reliably all else is academic
> busywork. Particles, in particular, are peculiar pointers to pertinate
> features but are not the main act.

IOW:

If all the kings men and all the kings horses put all of their
herculean efforts into proving the legitimacy of these sub atomic
particles they may very well prove their “point.”

But if all of this effort produces yet another cold teapot...

Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks

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