Since you are going there during winter, as Rossi to install an ecat for an
open field camping, in front of his assembling factory, and stay there for
1 week, with heating.

2011/11/20 Aussie Guy E-Cat <aussieguy.e...@gmail.com>

> I appreciate your advise and one thing an old engineer learns is to never
> reinvent the wheel. I have learned to leverage other peoples experience and
> knowledge. If I get to the first test of a single E-Cat module and Rossi
> doesn't throw a hissy fit, you are invited but your costs are yours. Never
> thought you would ask ;) 130 kWs from that Door Knob reactor still make me
> nervous as I wonder what happens during a melt down? I do remember the hole
> in the roof P&F experienced and that was a pissy weak reactor compared to
> what Rossi has developed. Ok sure it stops when it melts, we hope, but what
> happens before it stops? If 130 kWs was somewhat controlled, can these
> reactors each generated 5 -10 times as much heat or more? Maybe bring a
> bomb disposal suit?
>
> AG
>
>
>
> On 11/21/2011 3:48 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
>
>> E-cat guy reports that he may be able to purchase an e-cat, and he asked
>> for advice about how to test it. I feel strongly about this, because I have
>> spent months in on-again, off-again negotiations to perform a test. Since I
>> am a veteran of failed attempts I feel I have special knowledge of how not
>> to do this, so I have started a new thread to draw attention to my urgent
>> suggestions.
>>
>> Let me first say that if you need more money I may be able to help.
>>
>> Now, let's go over what you SHOULD do and what you SHOULD NOT do:
>>
>> SHOULD DO
>>
>> If you have enough money to buy one of these things, you have enough to
>> do the tests right.
>>
>> Find someone who speaks Italian, and have them find a top-notch local
>> engineering firm that specializes in testing and certifying boilers. (I
>> call everyone in that business "HVAC" but boiler testing may be a separate
>> category in Italy. I wouldn't know about that.)
>>
>> Let this company handle everything. They have the instruments. They know
>> the local regulations. They have done this thousands of times before. Do
>> not hire a company that has not done it thousands of times. The only thing
>> unusual about this job is that you need some radiation detectors for
>> safety. They are cheap.
>>
>> You stay out of their way, but I recommend you do some simple "reality
>> check" tests of your own, with handheld instruments, a stopwatch, and a
>> weight scale.
>>
>> <ahem> Invite me!
>>
>>
>> SHOULD NOT
>>
>> Do not let any large corporations or government agencies get involved.
>>
>> Do not let scientists get involved. No chemists, and especially no
>> physicists. They do not have the right skill set, to put it diplomatically.
>>
>> Do not make your own instruments.
>>
>> The engineering firm should use industry standard techniques only, with
>> the European version of NIST certified industrial grade instruments. If
>> they suggest you need a special, made-to-order testbed or a custom set of
>> instruments, you are talking to the wrong firm. They should have everything
>> they need sitting in the van. This should be a routine job for them.
>>
>> Do not use high precision scientific laboratory instruments. Too much
>> precision is as bad as too little. Do not invite any experts in laboratory
>> calorimetry. I repeat, no physicists. If one of them shows up at your door
>> with high tech, high precision instruments and offers his services for
>> free, the answer is no, go away, vamoose, うせろ (make yourself scarce --
>> http://eow.alc.co.jp/%E3%81%**86%E3%81%9B%E3%82%8D<http://eow.alc.co.jp/%E3%81%86%E3%81%9B%E3%82%8D>
>> ).
>>
>> Do not listen to any advice from skeptics.
>>
>> Ignore the peanut gallery, including me, except for practical,
>> been-there-done-that advice such as this message. Notice that I am not
>> offering any specific technical advice here about instruments, although of
>> course I could do that.
>>
>> - Jed
>>
>>
>

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