It is funny that not a single new person has reported even testing the
images.
Both Jones Bennee and Gibson Elliot had tested and reported back with
positive results before I posted this to Vortex.

So before everyone tries to debunk it, find fault.
How about actually testing it and reporting back what if anything you got
from it?

For me the intensity of the energy is far far beyond anything that my
imagination alone can conjure up.
But I accept that may not be the case for most.

John

On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 10:44 AM, James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What would be an acceptable control experiment that could distinguish
> between placebo and real effect?  What about double blind?
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 5:13 PM, John Berry <berry.joh...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Let me add that I also know that this has nothing to do with visual
>> effects because this is only one form I have used to effect the aether.
>>
>> It started when I made a coil a bit over a year ago, I could very very
>> faintly at first feel something in my hand.
>> It was near the level of imagination at first, but it became more
>> apparent as the energy gathered in my hand until it was undeniable.
>>
>> I thought it might have had a conventional explanation until I found it
>> worked for a few minutes after turning the power off.
>>
>> I learnt more and made one that needed no power and was stronger, I
>> tested it on people and found a majority could feel it.
>>
>> I have since made many more coils and had about 200+ people feel a
>> sensation (over 90%, often about 97%, occasionally a lower percentage feel
>> it, but always a majority).
>>
>> I have made audio files that use some of the principles I found to get
>> computer speakers to make the energy (sometimes it is not the sound but the
>> EM from the speakers that effects the aether).
>>
>> And I have done a lot of work with images since they can effect the
>> aether just fine, but have many many advantages.
>>
>> So if it was just an effect with the mind, then these same principles
>> would not work when in coil form hidden from sight in a tube, but it works
>> fine.
>>
>> So before you write this off as some bio-sensory trick, give it a try.
>> Why wouldn't light effect the medium in which it has it's existence?
>> Really by definition it must. Well, it does.
>>
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 9:14 AM, John Berry <berry.joh...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> This is not made to effect the eye or brain.
>>> It works with eyes closed.
>>> As do images that look like a solid colour to the eyes, they still work
>>> (due to subtle colour variation the eye can't make out).
>>>
>>> If you put the  'shooter' image on screen and feel the right side of the
>>> screen from the back or not looking at the screen, the energy can still be
>>> felt.
>>> Having said that, it depends on the persons sensitivity.
>>>
>>> Some people can't feel it in their palms, but enough can.
>>>
>>> If you don't believe me, here is a radical idea, try it.
>>> Stick the image on screen and feel at the 'output' of the shooter image
>>> and see if you can feel something (likely subtle, a breeze, a cool, a
>>> warmth, a tingle, something), then try without being able to see the image.
>>>
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 1:31 AM, Roarty, Francis X <
>>> francis.x.roa...@lmco.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  John,****
>>>>
>>>> Eye candy, vertigo and mood alteration are certainly examples of light
>>>> patterns affecting the brain through optical stimulation but I would not
>>>> qualify this as engineering the ether. It is an interesting subject but I
>>>> disagree with you titling this subject as based on ether theory.****
>>>>
>>>> Regards****
>>>>
>>>> Fran****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> *From:* John Berry [mailto:berry.joh...@gmail.com]
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 18, 2013 4:05 AM
>>>>
>>>> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
>>>> *Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Any experimenters, aether theorists here?
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>>  ** **
>>>>
>>>> Harry, thanks for your appreciation.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> But it isn't about drawings.****
>>>>
>>>> Sure, that is the option I have selected to share since it is sooo easy
>>>> to replicate.****
>>>>
>>>>  ****
>>>>
>>>> I can also make sound files that create energy that can be felt.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> And programs****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> And videos, but the easiest to share is images.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> I can share coils, I can share electrical circuits.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> It is about breaking into a new realm of physics that makes much more
>>>> extraordinary technology possible.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> So who is interested?
>>>> So far no one new has apparently tried to feel the energy.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> I thought the only reason to be here was interests in breakthrough
>>>> discoveries in science that change what is possible, it seems however that
>>>> there are very very few even willing to dip their toe in the water.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> John****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Harry Veeder <hveeder...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:****
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for positing this.
>>>> It is about drawing the world into existence.****
>>>>
>>>>  ****
>>>>
>>>> Newton drew a clock-work universe into existence using geometry and the
>>>> tools of a mechanical draftsmen.****
>>>>
>>>> "...geometry is founded in mechanical practice, and is nothing but that
>>>> part of universal mechanics which accurately proposes and demonstrates the
>>>> art of measuring." --from the preface to Principia  ****
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Today, we don't have to confine ourselves to mechanical practices when
>>>> drawing geometry so we can draw different worlds into existence.****
>>>>
>>>>  ****
>>>>
>>>>  ****
>>>>
>>>>  ****
>>>>
>>>> Harry****
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  ****
>>>>
>>>>  ****
>>>>
>>>>  ****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 8:56 AM, John Berry <berry.joh...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:****
>>>>
>>>> And a 3rd  image to try to feel, this contains recent development with
>>>> some previous ones.****
>>>>
>>>> http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6251/rotational.png****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> All in an effort to reduce the odds of having people report they don't
>>>> feel anything.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> Again, best in a dark room (but not required).****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> Feel for any sensations.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 11:43 PM, John Berry <berry.joh...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:****
>>>>
>>>> A worthwhile improvement for both images:****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/1139/lateststrongest4.png****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/6029/shooterv54.png****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 7:32 PM, John Berry <berry.joh...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:****
>>>>
>>>> I sent the wrong image by mistake, the first link should have been this
>>>> one:****
>>>>
>>>> http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/4411/thelateststrongest2.png****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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