One point that arises from this discussion is that time dilation varies across an infinite range of values for the exact same system of particles. There is no one valid value that is fixed for all observers.
This concept seems to be difficult for many to accept. Time dilation is in the eyes of the beholder and not the system being observed. Dave -----Original Message----- From: John Berry <berry.joh...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Mon, Feb 17, 2014 3:13 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law David, if the electrons do not see that in their world view, then the second one is hardly exposed to something that does not exist for it. Every electrically charged object has in other reference frames various magnetic fields, the axis and direction of the magnetic field is decided by the relative motion of the observer. Since radiation of various forms exists moving in every possible direction towards every charged object, that we can propose that every charged object has multiple magnetic fields with every possible magnitude, direction and axis in different reference frames that are being regularly observed in those frames. Of course none of this is true if SR is incorrect, and if the motion in question is relative to an aether providing an unknown frame of reference... On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 8:52 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote: We observe two moving electrons in my calculation. The first one generates a magnetic field that the second one is exposed to. The electrons do not see this effect in their world view. This is equivalent to what we might see if we look at two parallel beams of charged particles. Speed them up to nearly the speed of light and my calculation is that they do not attract or repel each other. Dave -----Original Message----- From: H Veeder <hveeder...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Sun, Feb 16, 2014 11:41 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law What is the source of the magnetism? Harry On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 6:24 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote: Sorry, I realize that my wording was flawed. I mean that the two particles are moving in parallel at the same velocity. Dave -----Original Message----- From: H Veeder <hveeder...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Sun, Feb 16, 2014 3:20 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 9:44 AM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote: Once I made a calculation of the attraction between two charged particles that are moving together at a constant velocity relative to my frame of reference. I was pleasantly surprised to find that as the velocity of the two charges approached the speed of light, a perfect balance between the electric force and the magnetic force was achieved. This implied that there would be precisely zero electromagnetic force between the two and hence no acceleration either together or apart at the speed of light. This matches the special theory of relativity since at light speed the time dilation reaches infinity for the objects being viewed. Since their time was slowed down to zero, they should not be seen as accelerating towards or away from each other. Dave Dave, what do you mean by "moving together"? Moving on parallel paths at constant velocity or moving off in different directions at constant velocity? Harry
