Grumble.   I hate it when Karl is right.

Chunk and needing a diet


On 2012-07-12, at 11:36 AM, Karl wrote:

> Its Chunk, not Chuck now.  Please start signing appropriately.
> 
> Karl
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> On 2012-07-12, at 9:28 PM, Chuck Hill <ch...@global-village.net> wrote:
> 
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>> On 2012-07-12, at 4:01 AM, Hugi Thordarson wrote:
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>>>>> I think Hugi also use it.
>>>> 
>>>> Is that a point for or against it?  :-P
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>> Ah ha!  So you ARE still reading the list!  :-)  Good to see you around!
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>> 
>>> But yes, I've used Cayenne on a couple of projects. As you know it feels a 
>>> *lot* like EOF and was by far the nicest ORM I could legally use at my 
>>> previous pure java workplace. (protip: never go anywhere near JPA, it 
>>> *will* rape your dog and kill your grandmother.) 
>> 
>> LOL
>> 
>> 
>>> Apart from the technical similarities, Cayenne also has another important 
>>> thing in common with WO: A good community and an active mailing list full 
>>> of nice and helpful people, so you never get stuck along the way.
>> 
>> That is good to hear and not surprising considering that some of them are 
>> ex-WO people.
>> 
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>>> Cayenne is still missing a lot of functionality when compared to EOF/Wonder 
>>> and generally feels less mature (understandably, since EOF is ancient). 
>>> This is perhaps not such a huge problem, since functionality can always be 
>>> added—but there is indeed a *lot* of work to be done to reach feature 
>>> parity with EOF.
>>> 
>>> It's clear that at some point most of us will have to stop using EOF in 
>>> it's current form. In a perfect world (that's the world where I have 
>>> endless time and money) I'd do a clean room implementation of EOF and live 
>>> happily ever after. But this is indeed not a perfect world, so helping 
>>> making Cayenne better and more integrated with WO seems like a more 
>>> realistic goal (besides, it allows more resources to be spent on a 
>>> re-implementation of WO; something I'd love to participate in).
>> 
>> Chuck
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