Hi Dain,

Geronimo can use everything from Yoko including tools etc. 
Since geronimo is certified with JDK 1.5 this should not be a problem.

thanks,
Adi Sakala

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dain Sundstrom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 2:30 PM
> To: yoko-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: coding standard and logging
> 
> 
> I would hope that everything runs under 1.4.  Geronimo will 
> also want  
> to use that tooling that you mention.
> 
> -dain
> 
> On Apr 6, 2006, at 9:23 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
> 
> > I think that we can layer this.  Core server compiles and runs  
> > under JDK14.  Tooling, etc. compiles and runs under JDK15.
> >
> > Let me be clear.  The overwhelming bulk of production deployments  
> > are in JDK14.  We need to be sensitive to this.  You will need to  
> > convince me that any other route other than the compromise stated  
> > above is a viable option.
> >
> > I do not like retrotranslators since, IIUC, they do not work well  
> > w/ debuggers.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Alan
> >
> > Sakala, Adinarayana wrote, On 4/6/2006 8:50 AM:
> >
> >> Yes If we start JDK 1.5 you get all the rich features of JDK 1.5  
> >> plus most projects/customers are moving in that direction.
> >> For the part that "we will not support JDK 1.4" answer is yes and  
> >> no depending on how you look at it.
> >> Yes, is we can use a retrotranslator to run in a JDK 1.4  
> >> environment. http://retrotranslator.sourceforge.net/
> >>
> >> My vote would be to start with JDK 1.5 as Aaron suggests in this  
> >> email. Writing code in JDK1.5 is so much different than writing  
> >> code in JDK 1.4 and then running it in 1.5.
> >>
> >> +1 to take the route of JDK 1.5 for Yoko.
> >>
> >> thanks,
> >> Adi
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Alan D. Cabrera [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 11:34 AM
> >>> To: yoko-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >>> Subject: Re: coding standard and logging
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Nolan, Edell wrote, On 4/6/2006 8:19 AM:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Alan D. Cabrera [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06  
> >>>> April 2006 16:07
> >>>> To: yoko-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >>>> Subject: Re: coding standard and logging
> >>>>
> >>>> Lars Kühne wrote, On 4/5/2006 9:30 PM:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Lars Kühne wrote, On 4/4/2006 4:05 PM:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Nolan, Edell wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 2) The last email for the logging - is below We could use  
> >>>>>>>> the LogUtils class from celtix which is using the
> >>>>>>>> jdk1.5 logging.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I think there was strong opposition against JDK logging  
> >>>>>>> because people love log4j. I think the consensus was to  
> >>>>>>> define our own logger interface and inject that in ORB.init().
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> What are our target JDK versions again?  Do we start w/ JDK14  
> >>>>>> or JDK13?  I am of the opinion that we use the vanilla logger
> >>> for JDK14
> >>>>>> or, if we start w/ JDK13, log4j.  In either case I do not see  
> >>>>>> the need for a specialized logger interface that's injected;  
> >>>>>> I'm interested in hearing opinion on this.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> JDK 1.3 will be end-of-lifed by Sun this summer, so I think
> >>> we should
> >>>>> ignore it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Re logging, where I work we use log4j on JDK 1.4. I think that  
> >>>>> is a pretty common scenario, and using vanilla 
> j.u.logging will  
> >>>>> not integrate well with the rest of our apps. If you want to
> >>> support both
> >>>>> you either have to use some logger abstraction, and a
> >>> logger interface
> >>>>> is the best abstraction I can come up with.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> Makes sense.  What about slf4j?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Re minimum JDK: I would like to also bring JDK 1.5 into the
> >>> picture,
> >>>>> but maybe that should go into another thread.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> Yes, if our minimum JDK is 1.4 then I assume that we would
> >>> work under JDK1.5; er, at least if you don't use Geronimo as an  
> >>> example.  :)
> >>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Alan.
> >>>>
> >>>> I seen on the geronimo dev list
> >>>> "We already support JDK 1.5 except for CORBA.  Because of
> >>> the CORBA limitation Geronimo can't be certified on JDK 1.5, but  
> >>> if you leave CORBA disabled (and turn off the DayTrader sample  
> >>> application) Geronimo should run fine on 1.5.
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>   Aaron
> >>>> "
> >>>>
> >>>> My vote is to start with jdk1.5 and it seems geronimo
> >>> already has support for jdk1.5.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> When you say start w/ JDK 1.5, do you mean that we will not  
> >>> support JDK1.4?  I am very much against that.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Alan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> 
> 

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