It will be a problem for users still on 1.4. Is there something from
JDK 5 that we desperately need to implement an ORB?
-dain
On Apr 6, 2006, at 12:29 PM, Sakala, Adinarayana wrote:
Hi Dain,
Geronimo can use everything from Yoko including tools etc.
Since geronimo is certified with JDK 1.5 this should not be a problem.
thanks,
Adi Sakala
-----Original Message-----
From: Dain Sundstrom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 2:30 PM
To: yoko-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: coding standard and logging
I would hope that everything runs under 1.4. Geronimo will
also want
to use that tooling that you mention.
-dain
On Apr 6, 2006, at 9:23 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
I think that we can layer this. Core server compiles and runs
under JDK14. Tooling, etc. compiles and runs under JDK15.
Let me be clear. The overwhelming bulk of production deployments
are in JDK14. We need to be sensitive to this. You will need to
convince me that any other route other than the compromise stated
above is a viable option.
I do not like retrotranslators since, IIUC, they do not work well
w/ debuggers.
Regards,
Alan
Sakala, Adinarayana wrote, On 4/6/2006 8:50 AM:
Yes If we start JDK 1.5 you get all the rich features of JDK 1.5
plus most projects/customers are moving in that direction.
For the part that "we will not support JDK 1.4" answer is yes and
no depending on how you look at it.
Yes, is we can use a retrotranslator to run in a JDK 1.4
environment. http://retrotranslator.sourceforge.net/
My vote would be to start with JDK 1.5 as Aaron suggests in this
email. Writing code in JDK1.5 is so much different than writing
code in JDK 1.4 and then running it in 1.5.
+1 to take the route of JDK 1.5 for Yoko.
thanks,
Adi
-----Original Message-----
From: Alan D. Cabrera [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 11:34 AM
To: yoko-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: coding standard and logging
Nolan, Edell wrote, On 4/6/2006 8:19 AM:
-----Original Message-----
From: Alan D. Cabrera [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06
April 2006 16:07
To: yoko-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: coding standard and logging
Lars Kühne wrote, On 4/5/2006 9:30 PM:
Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
Lars Kühne wrote, On 4/4/2006 4:05 PM:
Nolan, Edell wrote:
2) The last email for the logging - is below We could use
the LogUtils class from celtix which is using the
jdk1.5 logging.
I think there was strong opposition against JDK logging
because people love log4j. I think the consensus was to
define our own logger interface and inject that in ORB.init().
What are our target JDK versions again? Do we start w/ JDK14
or JDK13? I am of the opinion that we use the vanilla logger
for JDK14
or, if we start w/ JDK13, log4j. In either case I do not see
the need for a specialized logger interface that's injected;
I'm interested in hearing opinion on this.
JDK 1.3 will be end-of-lifed by Sun this summer, so I think
we should
ignore it.
Re logging, where I work we use log4j on JDK 1.4. I think that
is a pretty common scenario, and using vanilla
j.u.logging will
not integrate well with the rest of our apps. If you want to
support both
you either have to use some logger abstraction, and a
logger interface
is the best abstraction I can come up with.
Makes sense. What about slf4j?
Re minimum JDK: I would like to also bring JDK 1.5 into the
picture,
but maybe that should go into another thread.
Yes, if our minimum JDK is 1.4 then I assume that we would
work under JDK1.5; er, at least if you don't use Geronimo as an
example. :)
Regards,
Alan.
I seen on the geronimo dev list
"We already support JDK 1.5 except for CORBA. Because of
the CORBA limitation Geronimo can't be certified on JDK 1.5, but
if you leave CORBA disabled (and turn off the DayTrader sample
application) Geronimo should run fine on 1.5.
Thanks,
Aaron
"
My vote is to start with jdk1.5 and it seems geronimo
already has support for jdk1.5.
When you say start w/ JDK 1.5, do you mean that we will not
support JDK1.4? I am very much against that.
Regards,
Alan
