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Khazeh: > The Abrogation of the Shari'ah is really within the Will [Mashiyyat] of t he > Supreme Ordainer, exalted be His Names and Attributes. That's the claim you are making. And that's probably one of the essential points of difference between the Bahai faith and Islam. Peace Gilberto http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist/m43042.html Dear Gilberto It is midnight in my country [the place on earth which is my transitory and transient home] ...so I will say Good Night and God bless you [God yubaarik feeka] BUT re your point above There is no real difference if you think about carefully. The Text of the Holy Qur'an says that the ***SHARI'AH***s emanate from a DEEN The Shari'ahs the Qur'an asserts are the same as that which started with Noah onwards. Now clearly the Noachide Shari'ah was both the same and different from the Abrahamic Mosaic Christian Muhammadan Shari'ahs. But the DEEN was the same. The Bahá'ís claim still that the Deen is ONE I will put for your enjoyment the actual Arabic verse as it may help to unravel the mystery. You dear Gilberto seem to be deep in Traditionalism and some of your postings echo what I have read [and not understood of Guenon] ...so this point may not be difficult for your good mind... ****42:13. SharaAAa lakum mina alddeeni ma wassa bihi noohan waallathee awhayna ilayka wama wassayna bihi ibraheema wamoosa waAAeesa an aqeemoo alddeena wala tatafarraqoo feehi kabura AAala almushrikeena ma tadAAoohum ilayhi Godu yajtabee ilayhi man yashao wayahdee ilayhi man yuneebu**** Notice the Divine Revealer says *** SharaAAa lakum** ie the Shari'ah s come unto you are proffered unto you **** MINA ALDDEENI *** ie from [Min] DEEN the DEEN ald-DEEN 042.013 YUSUFALI: The same religion [DEEN] has He established [SHAR'AA] for you as that which He enjoined on Noah - the which We have sent by inspiration to thee - and that which We enjoined on Abraham, Moses, and Jesus: Namely, that ye should remain steadfast in religion, and make no divisions therein: to those who worship other things than God, hard is the (way) to which thou callest them. God chooses to Himself those whom He pleases, and guides to Himself those who turn (to Him). PICKTHAL: He hath ordained [SHAR'AA] for you that religion which He commended unto Noah, and that which We inspire in thee (Muhammad), and that which We commended unto Abraham and Moses and Jesus, saying: Establish the religion, and be not divided therein. Dreadful for the idolaters is that unto which thou callest them. God chooseth for Himself whom He will, and guideth unto Himself him who turneth (toward Him). SHAKIR: He has made plain to you of the religion what He enjoined upon Nuh and that which We have revealed to you and that which We enjoined upon Ibrahim and Musa and Isa that keep to obedience and be not divided therein; hard to the unbelievers is that which you call them to; God chooses for Himself whom He pleases, and guides to Himself him who turns (to Him), frequently. So we can see points of Unity here ***Therein lies the strength of the unity of the Faith, of the validity of a Revelation that claims not to destroy or belittle previous Revelations, but to connect, unify, and fulfill them. *** There exist several Islamic traditions in which Muhammad closely identifies himself with Jesus. One such tradition, presented early in The Book of Certitude, represents the Prophet as having exclaimed: "I am Jesus."219 The "I am Jesus" tradition Bahá'u'lláh cites is attested primarily in Isma'ili circles. Lawson translates one such tradition as transmitted in the Kitáb al-Kashf, in a sermon of 'Ali known as the Khutbat al-Bayán: "I am the Christ who heals the blind and the leprous, creating birds and dispersing clouds." Meaning [says the commentator]: "I am the second Christ (al-masih al-thani)—I am he and he is I." At this a man stood up and asked: "O Commander of the Faithful, was the Torah written in a foreign language or in Arabic?"'Ali said: "[In a] foreign language, but its meaning is Arabic, namely that Christ is the Qaim bi'l-haqq, and the king of this world and of the next. The Qur'án itself confirms this in the verse: 'Peace be upon me the day that I am raised up alive.' (Qur'án 19:33.) Thus 'Isa ibn Maryam is of me and I of him, and he is the Most Great Word of God (kalimat alláh alkubr(i) and he is the witness and I am the one testified to."220 The question of the authenticity of such a saying is not the issue here, since, at any rate, the tradition represented a sentiment in Shí'í consciousness. For Bahá'u'lláh, this tradition provided a hermeneutical key to Jesus' Farewell Discourse and was instructive as to the real meaning of prophetic "return." This type of discussion is not scholastic. It is apologetic, and opens up the possibility for a sort of reciprocity of attributes among the Prophets of God. In the course of Bahá'u'lláh's argument, he draws a series of equivalences from the implications of the statement, "I am Jesus": Muhammad is Jesus. Jesus is thus Muhammad. Muhammad is the "Seal of the Prophets." Jesus is thus the "Seal of the Prophets." Jesus is the "Seal of the Prophets," but not the last prophet. Ergo, although Muhammad is the "Seal of the Prophets," he was not the last prophet. http://bahai-library.com/books/symbol.secret/4.html Please Please read and enjoy I will not be able to respond for a few days and I end with a Prayer of 'Abdu'l-Baha *** He is the All-Glorious! O God, my God! Lowly and tearful, I raise my suppliant hands to Thee and cover my face in the dust of that Threshold of Thine, exalted above the knowledge of the learned, and the praise of all that glorify Thee. Graciously look upon Thy servant, humble and lowly at Thy door, with the glances of the eye of Thy mercy, and immerse him in the Ocean of Thine eternal grace. Lord! He is a poor and lowly servant of Thine, enthralled and imploring Thee, captive in Thy hand, praying fervently to Thee, trusting in Thee, in tears before Thy face, calling to Thee and beseeching Thee, saying: O Lord, my God! Give me Thy grace to serve Thy loved ones, strengthen me in my servitude to Thee, illumine my brow with the light of adoration in Thy court of holiness, and of prayer to Thy Kingdom of grandeur. HELP ME TO BE SELFLESS AT THE HEAVENLY ENTRANCE OF THY GATE, AND AID ME TO BE DETACHED FROM ALL THINGS WITHIN THY HOLY PRECINCTS. Lord! Give me to drink from the CHALICE OF SELFLESSNESS [fana']; with its robe clothe me, and in its ocean immerse me. Make me as dust in the pathway of Thy loved ones, and grant that I may offer up my soul for the earth ennobled by the footsteps of Thy chosen ones in Thy path, O Lord of Glory in the Highest. With this prayer doth Thy servant call Thee, at dawn tide and in the night-season. Fulfil his heart's desire, O Lord! Illumine his heart, gladden his bosom, kindle his light, that he may serve Thy Cause and Thy servants. Thou art the Bestower, the Pitiful, the Most Bountiful, the Gracious, the Merciful, the Compassionate. (`Abdu'l-Baha: Selections ... `Abdu'l-Baha, Pages: 319-320)*** __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, use subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
