On 10/26/2011 1:06 AM, Ryan Kaldari wrote:
Earlier today, a long-standing editor was reported to AN/I for making
personal attacks. The specific attacks were the following two posts:
You simply display your ignorance.
Please carry on, so everyone can see what an ignorant arse you are.
Off
Because the two editors calling for deletion may be biased vs. woman
pianist's ethnicity, I don't know if this really is an article fit for
deletion, especially for those of us who are inclusionists.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Zvart_Sarkissian
I wasn't sure if
On 11/19/2011 10:48 PM, Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote:
* Carol Moore wrote:
Because the two editors calling for deletion may be biased vs. woman
pianist's ethnicity, I don't know if this really is an article fit for
deletion, especially for those of us who are inclusionists.
Could you explain
On 11/22/2011 6:22 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote:
Article from The Atlantic about the gender gap in the Occupy movement.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/11/the-occupy-movements-woman-problem/248831/#.TswgjrqJ7Rk.twitter
What is Occupy's solution to its gender disparity problem?
Some more relevant articles. And there are enough WP:RS mentions to be
in the Wikipedia article(s), which I myself haven't even thought about
looking at yet.
http://thefeministwire.com/2011/11/occupy-rape-culture/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Dispute_Resolution
Definitely improving it would help keep more women editing!
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Pardon me for stereotyping without evidence. Bad original posts
sometimes lead to bad responses. ;-(
Hear hear as to why people opposed to the concept posting on the list.
On 12/1/2011 12:01 PM, Philippe Beaudette wrote:
On Dec 1, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Christine Meyerchristinewme...@gmail.com
On 12/14/2011 7:08 PM, Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote:
You are comparing a global project to build an encyclopedia with media
for self-expression and communication. There are gender gaps in other
areas. Lego for instance, where you build things from little bricks, in
computing where people build
written a new article - and this was her first time - and she really was
proud. That just made me so happy.
I also got to meet Carol Moore, which was rather epic, I must say. :)
-Sarah
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While I'm not really familiar with various conflicts among the various
wikipedias in different languages and english-language oriented
Wikimedia.org and the foundation. I don't know if a short listing of
them would help clarify that for those of us who are confused. Being an
anti-imperialist
On 12/27/2011 8:23 PM, Ms. Anne Frazer wrote:
On Wednesday, December 28, 2011 1:23 AM Carol Moore
carolmoor...@verizon.net wrote:
No matter what the main language of the Wikimedia foundation - and
who knows what it might be 50 years from now - finding ways to more
actively get non-main
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Gender_Studies/Countering_Systemic_Gender_Bias
Just noticed it in case anyone wants to activate; don't know if Feminism
wikiproject just the better place or what.
FYI
CM in DC
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On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 7:02 AM, Karen Sue Rolph karenro...@hotmail.com
mailto:karenro...@hotmail.com wrote:
I would make a go of this in the San Francisco Bay Area if we
could get some traction going. I'll check in with a couple groups
I know of, and see where they stand. Do we
On 2/2/2012 3:03 AM, Caroline Becker wrote:
Don't be depress Sarah if female participation remains low. Even if
Wikipedia was a perfect place without any bias, it would still be a
project from the real world were lot of forces prevent women from
editing : lower confidence in themselves, less
On 2/4/2012 4:16 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote:
If you'd like to participate or develop an event, please visit the on
English Wikipedia (translations encouraged!) Women's History Month
page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiWomen%27s_History_Month
At least once a week I feel l guilty for
On 2/11/2012 12:35 PM, Risker wrote:
I do think the inclusion of the word notable is important here. The
lists aren't just of women, they're of women who are notable enough to
qualify for a Wikipedia article - which is a pretty low bar, as anyone
who's ever tried to get some mess
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Workshop_for_Women_in_Wikipedia
After communicating with the originators of the page, I restructured it
to be the Womens/Gender Gap part of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Workshop (which is also a great
self-teaching resources with links to other
http://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions
I assume Sue Gardner will be organizing something.
Just a reminder if people have their own ideas as well.
Cm in Dc
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This search shows which ones are about women. You can sign up to approve
at the bottom. (You should be able to sign in with your wikipedia user
name.)
The deadline for submissions is Sunday, March 18 at
More workshops for women and everyone else can be found through either
the complete list here
https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimania_submissions
(includes subcategories by topic and type)
Also of interest to women in general:
Search: Newbie in list above and see if you
wrote:
.
I know Carol Moore has been gathering documentation about training [1]
and I think this would be a good addition for that!
Sarah
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Workshop
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On 4/7/2012 10:35 AM, Bob Sponge wrote:
welcome to censorpedia
we fight probalbly sexism with our own middle-age-view on the world
and oppress any non appreciated right for free expression
than we told the critics idiots
The photo is obviously more about a sexy and stimulating phyical
On 4/27/2012 3:45 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote:
I could have a go again, Carol. :)
Gay porn is underrepresented in these articles.
Andreas
So if I was too implicit in my statement. As Andreas surmised, I meant
re-do that photo to make it male on male. Or do a second one that's male
on male. Go
On 5/2/2012 3:40 AM, Caroline Becker wrote:
Working harder to have awesome pictures of artworks with naked men ?
Caroline
I did the bio of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Feinstein_%28sculptor%29 as part of
a GLAM event.
Her husband does http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Currin does a
For those who enjoy debating various angles of this topic. Controlling
myself personally...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Notability_%28people%29#rfc_3EDB4AE
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This article has problems I've mention on the talk page and
WP:Wikiproject feminism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Women
It's up for second deletion and proposals it be permanently banned.
FYI.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/War_on_Women_%282nd_nomination%29
On 5/15/2012 12:47 PM, Nathan wrote:
It was a tactical deletion request. I find that to be a pretty silly
maneuver, personally, particularly as the nominators never do a very
good job as devil's advocate. If jbmurray didn't think the article
should be deleted, he should not have wasted his own
On 6/2/2012 12:15 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote:
I think the point is taken.
I really have no desire to think about these things, especially every
time I read this mailing list these days.
-Sarah
Really. My idea is, let the foundation use it's best judgement. I'm
sure it will err on the liberal
Sounds good... go for it...
On 6/3/2012 12:50 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote:
Hi everyone,
I think we're on the Beating a dead horse again situation with this
subject.[1] We will be going in circles about it - most of us seem to
not care as much as others, and no one seems to be taking any direct
One thing people can do is get on the
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Feminism/Article_alerts
List for articles being deleted, RfC'd etc.
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On 6/18/2012 9:29 AM, Nathan wrote:
Seems like another 1E candidate. The over-emphasis on the controversy
at the end of her career can be addressed by wiping out most of the
detail, or by removing the article entirely (since the notability
argument is somewhat fragile, and all the references
One comment on your draft, is that the langugage makes it a bit unclear
for the average reader if/that the imbalance in England was because the
males left the country and/or were killed in overseas wars. It's
implied but not sufficiently explicit so some people might get confused.
Also, the
On 7/18/2012 7:41 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote:
Hi everyone,
The photo is up from the WikiWomen's Luncheon. A bit of chaos - but,
we're throwing W's for wiki of course =)
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WikiWomen%27s_Lunch,_Wikimania_2012.jpg
Thank you Pierre-Selim for taking the photo
I took a few shots during the lunch and while setting up photo which
might put on wikicommons when get a chance; not sure if there's anyone
who DIDN'T want self photographed so that's an issue.
I didn't see a PINK don't photo me tag on anyone the whole event, but
I'm sure some people had
From
http://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Feedback#Other_meetups_and_meetings
The Women's Luncheon on Saturday was something I was very much looking
forward to, but it fell short of my expectations. I was enjoying bonding
with the women at my table, asking the speakers about their
I actually didn't read the first few posts because of the misspelling ;-)
But when I read in the telegraph article
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/7883064/MPs-scandals-covered-up-on-Wikipedia.html
*He's used multiple accounts
*Very interested in bondage
*Can be hostile to other users
I
On 8/2/2012 4:16 AM, Tom Morris wrote:
You seem to have omitted the bit about how he was subject to a relentless
campaign of vicious homophobic abuse.
Or, indeed, ArbCom's complete failure to understand the importance of how such abuse
and bullying occurs. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28proposals%29#Closing_Wikipedia:Wikiquette_assistance
So then where does one go for those constant, insidious low level sexist
comments that don't quite make it to WP:Ani level...
CM in DC
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Right now there are 3 questionable AfD's and various nominations, etc.
Plus a bunch of Good article nominees and other listings.
Watch that page (or the relevant page in your language) and comment from
time to time
On 8/26/2012 9:58 AM, Thomas Morton wrote:
Right now there are 3 questionable AfD's and various nominations,
etc. Plus a bunch of Good article nominees and other listings.
On a fostering friendly atmosphere note; characterising actions as
questionable is not very nice.
Tom
/2012 11:01 AM, Cynthia Ashley-Nelson wrote:
Or that I nominated the B.a.B.e article for those reasons? Let's
assume good faith here.
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 7:20 AM, Thomas Morton
morton.tho...@googlemail.com mailto:morton.tho...@googlemail.com
wrote:
On 26 August 2012 15:16, Carol
On 8/26/2012 5:27 PM, Laura Hale wrote:
I would personally be less bothered if it was women criticising women
critically and harshly, but when it looks like man after man
criticising women and no other female voices in the conversation, that
bothers me because of the historical overtones
On 8/26/2012 5:33 PM, Emily Monroe wrote:
It's probably better to avoid arguments of tone online, even if it's a
tone you want to avoid yourself, because it's way too easy to
misinterpret without tonal inflection, or other bits of non-verbal
body language. You may have misinterpreted the tone
I hate to use physiological excuses, but...the reason I lost control
was I had a bad head cold - plus doing strong coffee on top. So
confused mental/emotional states on steroids dominated my writing...
I value Wikipedia as a place where I HAVE to be diplomatic, since I do
lose my temper like
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Female_Wikipedians
How did we go from a dozen to 1,700? Some other category got renamed
and redirected?
Or some bot added everyone who had one of the user boxes in that category??
Looked at a few and didn't see evidence someone manually added them all.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Civility_enforcement
Again some people want to get rid of all civility enforcement.
(The larger RfC came after RfC on the policy talk page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Civility#rfc_A3FCF91 )
I haven't opined yet so
Added it to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Workshop_for_Women
Have to get back into the workshop head myself. Going to GLAM
edit-a-thon Friday at least.
On 10/10/2012 1:17 AM, Netha Hussain wrote:
Dear all,
It gives me pleasure to inform you that the first Wikipedia Women
Speaking of incivility,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Civility_enforcement
is still going on...
But we need more than words - we need a video. Maybe some of the
influentials on board could get something like this going...
As I just wrote there:
I'm thinking
It's kind of sad she has to start to by making statements that could be
calculated to tarnish one group of skeptics; it's as if to say, I can
sling insults as good as the next guy, so don't sling them at me, sling
them at those other guys. Weird...
On 10/24/2012 11:49 PM, Daniel and
On 10/30/2012 3:10 PM, Ryan Kaldari wrote:
After you finish your questionnaire, don't forget to add...
[[Category:Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Civility enforcement/Questions]]
to the bottom. Otherwise, it will never be seen.
Ryan Kaldari
Thank you. I have to update mine because to my horror
On 10/30/2012 5:10 PM, Carol Moore DC wrote:
So what am I supposed to do about a guy who curses me in talk page,
edit summaries (including for a mistake HE made) and even Dispute
resolution?? Go to WP:ANI
Via
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Incivility#Dealing_with_incivility I
On 1/16/2013 2:23 AM, Risker wrote:
Although I think it probably says something about the general
mentality of a significant portion of our editorship what was being
proposed for April Fool's day - sex, body parts, and swearing. Hmmm.
Risker/Anne
I stooped to that level and added the one
On 1/17/2013 1:24 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote:
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 5:06 AM, Carol Moore DC
carolmoor...@verizon.net mailto:carolmoor...@verizon.net wrote:
It took forever to get the actual article [[Circle jerk]] into
Wikipedia - a female did it.
Now, now, Carol. The record shows
On 1/20/2013 7:07 PM, Michael J. Lowrey wrote:
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 5:53 PM, Valerie Aurora
vale...@adainitiative.org wrote:
Can you believe Wikipedia Community Fellow and first Smithsonian
Wikipedian-in-residence Sarah Stierch didn't have a Wikipedia
biography until today?
Looks like we're keeping Sarah
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Sarah_Stierch
Decision:Keep
Hmmm, was he referring to MY yapping about other stuff? Oh, well
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On 5/9/2013 4:35 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote:
Bear in mind though that there is also a half-way house solution,
whereby contributors would identify to the Foundation, but remain at
liberty to use a pseudonymous user name.
Identification might then be a prerequisite for certain community
roles
OK, points taken below from Oliver Keyes about talking to trolls.
But here's what (knock wood) got my well known long term abuse harasser
(1000+ nasty and/or threatening emails, hundreds of reverts of edits to
me during last 6 months) off my back without going to the cops --which I
easily
I second your proposal.
On 5/13/2013 9:36 PM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote:
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/gendergap/2013-May/thread.html
shows me that Topless image retention -don't give up has stretched on
pretty long, and it seems to me like it might be better suited to onwiki
discussion
Yes, I kept thinking the doctors who talked her into this are monsters.
Then saw another article on that topic and read
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRCA1#Patents.2C_enforcement.2C_litigation.2C_and_controversy
Good place to add a WP:RS on that topic.
(And my first mammogram in 6 years came
There have been similar problems at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Manning
Obviously there have been a number of comments that are obviously
transphobic. However, there also have been repeated false charges of
transphobia against those who cite good policy reasons for not changing
the
Just cleaning up my email I realized I had missed this email about the
New School/FemTechNet project. The announcement and links look well
within Wiki policy parameters of recruiting more editors interested in
a topic and in an area where the Wikimedia Foundation wants more
recruits. It's a
On 10/21/2013 2:41 AM, Sarah Granger wrote:
I could see some women's organizations getting really angry once they
understand the problem, and blaming men for sexism, when the problem,
as all of us on this list know, is much more complex and not an
outright issue like that.
It may not be as
On 10/25/2013 7:35 PM, Risker wrote:
It's controversial because there are women who assumed a male role,
but were definitely women in their personal life. So your definition
there would be to assign them the male gender but the female sex.
And I disagreewhat's being assigned there is sex,
For various reasons I've been studying policies on both community and
arbitration sanctions and looking at lists of such sanctions here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:General_sanctions#Active_sanctions
Of particular interest is the recent arbitration
On 1/31/2014 8:21 AM, Lennart Guldbrandsson wrote:
Hello,
During the last week or so, Wikimedia Sverige's gendergap project
https://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Projekt:Kvinnor_p%C3%A5_Wikipedia_2013
has had some media attention. We've had some interest from the media
before, mainly before some of
On 5/14/2014 7:05 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote:
Great points Moriel - thanks for contributing to the discussion.
When this mailing list was a hot bed of discussion a few years back a
number of us tossed around the idea about media projects to tackle
systemic bias. Such as photography competitions
an example of topless female cheesecake that IS art and appropriate is here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Currin
Google.images has lots more.
I created the article about his wife artist/sculptor Rachel Feinstein.
He's done a lot of these of his wife and maybe they help expand the
juvenile
Thread: Translating effective methods of dealing with a culture of
bullying from other organisations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Editor_Retention#Translating_effective_methods_of_dealing_with_a_culture_of_bullying_from_other_organisations
Just been too busy with own
On 6/22/2014 7:04 PM, Delphine Ménard wrote:
Hello,
I found this:
http://www.zdnet.com/quoras-misogyny-problem-a-cautionary-tale-730762/
an interesting read.
Cheers,
Delphine
Thanks for this. I wasn't even aware of this site.
There goes the theory that making editors register with
On 6/23/2014 11:45 AM, Kathleen McCook wrote:
There is a tendency of men to disregard women's discussion of issues
that affect them so, yes, men on a list like this can undermine its
purpose.
--Kathleen
FYI, for those who want to read the early archives, they are linked from
the bottom
On 6/23/2014 12:56 PM, Katherine Casey wrote:
Actually, I think there's something to be said for downvoting. Not in
the reddit i disagree sense, but in the slashdot/ meta filter
comments downvoted/flagged past a certain point will be
hidden/deleted sense. It would obviously take a lot of
On 6/23/2014 11:26 AM, Risker wrote:
I
The focus on technology here is very important. Right now, there is
no way for Wikimedians to control from whom they receive email this
user emails, or pings through the notification system. We know that
both have been, and continue to be, vectors for
On 6/23/2014 2:19 PM, Ryan Kaldari wrote:
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Derric Atzrott
datzr...@alizeepathology.com mailto:datzr...@alizeepathology.com
wrote:
* bring back Wikipedia:Wikiquette_assistance since women may not
want to got to WP:ANI for low grade constant nonsense
On 6/23/2014 1:49 PM, Derric Atzrott wrote:
Studies are useful. This particular study shows promise I think:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Women_and_Wikipedia For
allies these sorts of things help us understand what we are actually
trying to accomplish and metrics are useful
On 6/23/2014 3:17 PM, Derric Atzrott wrote:
Maybe it would be worth making threads for some of these ideas. If no
one else does, I'd be happy to.
*Threads here? Like proposals that could be worked over and brought to
our various wikis? That's what we need to do. I re-named one thread
On 6/24/2014 4:02 PM, Kevin Gorman wrote:
If there is a problematic situation that the list moderators have
missed (which are currently me, Sue Gardner - who tends to be busy
enough to not be an active moderator, and Liz Kent,) I would encourage
anyone concerned about it to bring it to our
On 6/25/2014 11:50 PM, Sarah wrote:
We've got Wikipedia:Gendergap
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Gendergap that we could do
something with, and Wikipedia:WikiProject Countering systemic
bias/Gender bias task force
:
On Jun 29, 2014 8:30 PM Eastern, Marie Earley
eir...@hotmail.com mailto:eir...@hotmail.com wrote:
My apologies it was Carol Moore responding to Sarah Stierch
earlier on, I mentioned it from memory,
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/gendergap/2014-June/004397.html
If you
Actually that wasn't too bad a closing reply, since too often real
complaints are just ignored and there is no close.
Also, the good news is that *if* someone on wikipedia had linked to that
article and said that Sue Gardner is not good like this article says
blah blah, there might be some
On 7/3/2014 1:40 PM, Ryan Kaldari wrote:
The problem on en.wiki at least is that a vocal minority effectively
prevent any enforcement of the civility policy.
The other problem is double standard enforcement. A bunch of guys may
complain about mild incivility by a female and she'll get
While I've barely had a chance to read through proposal and comments,
I'd like to just ask re the below which applies generally right now:
On 7/7/2014 9:35 AM, Risker wrote:
I know what it's like to have my inbox flooded with requests for
assistance in relation to dispute resolution - just
On 7/22/2014 8:00 PM, Kerry Raymond wrote:
I think it's new-ness bias and a related content bias and a
popularity bias rather than primarily a gender bias. There's loads
of new work published all the time. Lots of it will not merit a
Wikipedia article, just as many novels by the male
On 7/23/2014 11:56 AM, Carol Moore dc wrote:
On 7/22/2014 8:00 PM, Kerry Raymond wrote:
I think it's new-ness bias and a related content bias and a
popularity bias rather than primarily a gender bias. There's loads
of new work published all the time. Lots of it will not merit a
Wikipedia
On 7/23/2014 5:10 PM, Ryan Kaldari wrote:
Personally, I don't think it's worth having a discussion here about
the merits of deleting these images. There's no chance in hell they
are going to be deleted from Commons. What I'm more interested in is
the locker-room nature of the discussions and
It ranges all over the place on various issues.
Wikipedia_talk:Administrators'_noticeboard#Where_and_how_to_request_a_Civility_board
I'm now trying to use it for a definitive ruling as to whether the
Gender Gap task force main page/subpage/essay can list particularly
obnoxious examples of
some ideas that came up here in the last week.
We're still building infrastructure, so come on by!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Countering_systemic_bias/Gender_gap_task_force
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Carol Moore dc
carolmoor...@verizon.net mailto:carolmoor
Going through old emails, see I now have info that replies to this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Countering_systemic_bias/open_tasks
On 6/26/2014 11:16 AM, Pharos wrote:
I think a version of Marie's idea for an umbrella to help with
diversity-related articles might be
FYI. The C word discussion was prompted by the now closed WP:AN
discussion mentioned previously.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Where_and_how_to_request_a_Civility_board
On 7/27/2014 7:51 PM, Kathleen McCook wrote:
These words do cause concern..this
On 7/30/2014 5:51 AM, Marie Earley wrote:
Things that I think might help:
Help pages wise, I'm sure they'd love to see you at:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Help
I know I wasted a couple years learning the hard way because the Help
pages didn't seem intuitive enough.
On 7/30/2014 11:39 PM, LB wrote:
Twice during my short discussion about how to start a civility board,
which turned into a long discussion about the word c*nt, an Admin gave
the link to the Commons search results for that word, saying that
showed that the text of the word isn't very
On 7/31/2014 4:32 PM, LB wrote:
I would appreciate some feedback on this discussion, please,
especially from others who have been stalked in real life, harassed
online, or Wikihounded.
http://freebeacon.com/issues/government-funded-study-why-is-wikipedia-sexist/
Government-Funded Study: Why Is Wikipedia Sexist?
$202,000 to address 'gender bias' in world's biggest online encyclopedia
BY: Elizabeth Harrington
Coincidentally(?) even as we're trying to get the Task Force more
.
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Sarah Stierch
sarah.stie...@gmail.com mailto:sarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote:
This is amazing.
That's a lot of money.
Sarah
On Aug 1, 2014 6:04 AM, Carol Moore dc carolmoor...@verizon.net
mailto:carolmoor...@verizon.net wrote:
http
On 8/2/2014 1:37 AM, Keilana wrote:
To briefly go back to what Sarah and Marie have said, I do find that
in person hand-holding and social support are the most effective
factors in getting women to stick around. I don't know how to
translate that from the real-world environment I teach newbies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#Rebooted_discussion
This whole topic is going hot on heave on his talk page, starting with
his proposal which I mention in my response on the proposalbelow:
What if it was far more limited: /WMF hires mediators to do
mediation and to
Reading through a 2011 post by a woman who quit because she didn't need
the grief I was thinking about why guys keep editing despite it. And
it occurred to me men are taught to take the pain, pretend it doesn't
hurt, man up.
In the ongoing discussion of civility on Jimbo Wales talk page I
On 8/6/2014 2:34 PM, Michael J. Lowrey wrote:
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Carol Moore dc carolmoor...@verizon.net wrote:
Reading through a 2011 post by a woman who quit because she didn't need the
grief I was thinking about why guys keep editing despite it. And it
occurred to me men
On 8/8/2014 11:28 AM, Tim Davenport wrote:
Ironically, all reference to Caitlin Dewey's ''Washington Post'' piece
cited by Ms. Stierch has been swept away from the En-WP article
[[Gender bias on Wikipedia]] by a tag-team.
Tim Davenport /// Carrite
Corvallis, OR
Similarly there's support
On 8/12/2014 1:39 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote:
Cynicism can be a powerful tool. And you aren't the first person to
tell a shitstarter like me that ;-)
OK, in that vein, first, are we talking about
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help/clickthrough
I hate chatting myself so already
that
ostensibly is for dealing with the problem.
On 8/12/2014 2:56 PM, Carol Moore dc wrote:
On 8/12/2014 1:39 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote:
Cynicism can be a powerful tool. And you aren't the first person to
tell a shitstarter like me that ;-)
OK, in that vein, first, are we talking about
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