I blocked Kent a long time ago, so I had to go to my spam folder to read this. Took me a minute. I have no response to Kent directly.
This all started because Andrew Duke sent a list to our listserv and I asked a pretty neutral question and then somebody tried to white wash it. That's it. Relax. *Denise Dalphond, Ph.D.* *ethnomusicologist* *schoolcraftwax.work <http://schoolcraftwax.work>* On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 10:34 AM kent williams <chaircrus...@gmail.com> wrote: > On the one hand, Denise has valid points. > > On the other hand she attacks people who have done nothing but good for > the Techno community, has never minimized the contribution of black > artists, and has never centered themselves in the discussion. > > Denise, you need to find a way to make the points you want to make without > making other people want to leave the 313 list. > > I've never wanted to silence anyone on this list and have never banned > anyone just for being outspoken, but at this point this list is a shadow of > its former self, and a lot of it has to do with people posting things that > make people feel uncomfortable. And not the 'questioning my privilege' > uncomfortable, like 'being personally attacked without justification' > uncomfortable. > > I don't just see the public posts, I get private e-mails all the time with > complaints about other list members. Those are private, but regular list > members only see what's on the list. > > No one can argue with Denise's contribution to music scholarship dealing > with black music, and no one should. > > But being aggressive and disagreeable on the mailing list makes it about > you, not about the music or the people. > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 9:21 AM cnd <3...@coke-smyth.net> wrote: > >> Allgxxd >> >> I hear you essay >> >> Cheers >> >> On 2020-06-24 14:11, Daniel Bean wrote: >> > Whoops sorry, meant to send that to the list. >> > >> > ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> > From: DANIEL BEAN <danbean....@gmail.com> >> > Date: Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 2:08 PM >> > Subject: Re: Techno links from a Black perspective (fixed) >> > To: Denise Dalphond <denisedalph...@gmail.com> >> > >> > Have to agree with Denise here, the idea that we can somehow ignore >> > race in techno (or any other American music forms for that matter) is >> > ludicrous, especially at the moment. >> > >> > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 1:32 PM Denise Dalphond >> > <denisedalph...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> Have you read my dissertation? Your suggestion makes no sense. Did >> >> you know Portia Maultsby was my teacher? Have you seen that chart of >> >> Black music genres floating around IG and FB? She made that. >> >> That’s part of her life’s work. And now, since I got to help her >> >> with it in graduate school, I get to help her update it >> >> professionally. So, shhhh. >> >> >> >> Do you not live in the United States? Do you not understand what is >> >> changing here in the United States? Stop embarrassing yourself. >> >> >> >> And why didn’t you get mad at Andrew Duke for sharing it? >> >> >> >> Denise Dalphond >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 5:24 AM Sjoerd <sjoerdvell...@gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Denise, is there any Social Justice Bandwagon you will not jump on? >> >> For the love of the 808, please refrain from this and find common >> >> ground in the beauty of this music instead of trying to sow division >> >> between people by this racebaiting. >> >> >> >> I think few people care if the writer of the article has a Black or >> >> White skin colour, since what matters is the message, and the >> >> message is T-E-C-H-N-O and Unity between people from all walks of >> >> life. >> >> >> >> Andrew, thanks for posting this. A lot has been written on the >> >> subject of Detroit Techno and I appreciate someone took the time and >> >> effort to collect them all. Seriously, the further we move forward >> >> in time, the more I realize that the future about this technological >> >> dystopia was already written way back in the 80's, with the origins >> >> of Techno in the Motorcity. >> >> >> >> On Mon, 22 Jun 2020 at 16:11, Denise Dalphond >> >> <denisedalph...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> A majority of those articles and books are by white people. What do >> >> they mean by Black perspective. You could also go to the Dancecult >> >> website: https://dancecult-research.net/references/ >> >> >> >> Denise >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 9:53 AM Andrew Duke >> >> <andrewdukecognit...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Dweller Electronics >> >> >> >> writings from a black perspective >> >> >> >> Our co-editor Ryan Clarke has researched a list of articles, >> >> interviews and documentaries about techno and its history. We have >> >> compiled it into this library that will be updated as we find more >> >> relevant work. >> >> >> >> It is organized by date and divided into two lists “Reading” and >> >> “Audio/Visual”. >> >> >> >> https://dwellerforever.blog/library >> > -- >> > Denise Dalphond, Ph. D. >> > ethnomusicologist >> > schoolcraftwax.work [1] >> > >> > Links: >> > ------ >> > [1] http://schoolcraftwax.work >> >>
