The Associated Press now capitalizes the B in Black, so proper grammar would be Black female scholar. However, I’m white. I’m more welcome here because I’m smarter and prettier.
Denise Dalphond On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 1:32 PM cnd <3...@coke-smyth.net> wrote: > Ftr Denise is more welcome on this list than you Kent, purely on the > basis of being a female black academic. > > Moderation? I'd rather hang with Moodymann than the bay city rollers. > > $0.02 > > B-) > > On 2020-06-24 18:30, kent williams wrote: > > You said it well. > > > > Denise deserves respect and attention. I've made myself clear in the > > last e-mail what I would like to see happen, and now I regret even > > posting that on-list. > > > > I'm not going to say any more on this. If anyone wants to e-mail me > > directly, I'll read and respond. > > > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 12:25 PM Kevin Kennedy <the...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> I rarely chime in on the list but trend towards paying attention > >> when I can. > >> > >> For many, it can be really difficult to cut through the 'noise' that > >> happens on a daily basis, as we are 100% inundated with information > >> about nearly any and every subject we could be interested in, and > >> some we're not. > >> > >> Maybe the choice of words "perspective" may have been in some ways > >> incomplete/misleading, however the intent was understood by me to be > >> one of a noble and humble nature. Most people don't have the time > >> in their modern life to collect all of the reading documents and > >> take the deeper dive necessary to understand any subject. > >> Unfortunately, not all techno people are academics-but many are > >> curious, which is a great trait for anyone academically-minded. > >> > >> That said, I LOVE Dr. Denise, and you all should know that she > >> 'keeps that same energy' for EVERYTHING...as Ethnomusicology is also > >> her life's work. If many had as much passion and persistence to > >> rely on, we'd all probably do much more than we already do. > >> > >> Fire and emotional content aren't easy things to channel. It's > >> taken me years to learn how to choose when and where I call out > >> things I don't like. I've recently done an interview with Peter > >> Kirn and while I had some opportunity to say whatever I chose, I > >> realized that denigrating people can be messy. > >> > >> DWELLER, as a whole, is a useful resource and may get one more > >> person to understand better the history of this music and have a > >> better appreciation for what makes it special and influential. We > >> must all learn together, those who haven't learned the story should, > >> and those who are attempting to be helpful should be encouraged to > >> find other resources that could be more relevant if the ones they > >> share are in some way not. > >> > >> I'm going to say in closing that we all on this list have a duty to > >> understand one another. We have to come together like buttcheeks > >> instead of sniping at each other like the outside world does on a > >> daily basis. We're all here on this list for the music first-But we > >> can also learn from each other. > >> > >> I sincerely hope all of you are well. FBK out. > >> > >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 10:34 AM kent williams > >> <chaircrus...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> On the one hand, Denise has valid points. > >> > >> On the other hand she attacks people who have done nothing but good > >> for the Techno community, has never minimized the contribution of > >> black artists, and has never centered themselves in the discussion. > >> > >> Denise, you need to find a way to make the points you want to make > >> without making other people want to leave the 313 list. > >> > >> I've never wanted to silence anyone on this list and have never > >> banned anyone just for being outspoken, but at this point this list > >> is a shadow of its former self, and a lot of it has to do with > >> people posting things that make people feel uncomfortable. And not > >> the 'questioning my privilege' uncomfortable, like 'being personally > >> attacked without justification' uncomfortable. > >> > >> I don't just see the public posts, I get private e-mails all the > >> time with complaints about other list members. Those are private, > >> but regular list members only see what's on the list. > >> > >> No one can argue with Denise's contribution to music scholarship > >> dealing with black music, and no one should. > >> > >> But being aggressive and disagreeable on the mailing list makes it > >> about you, not about the music or the people. > >> > >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 9:21 AM cnd <3...@coke-smyth.net> wrote: > >> Allgxxd > >> > >> I hear you essay > >> > >> Cheers > >> > >> On 2020-06-24 14:11, Daniel Bean wrote: > >>> Whoops sorry, meant to send that to the list. > >>> > >>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- > >>> From: DANIEL BEAN <danbean....@gmail.com> > >>> Date: Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 2:08 PM > >>> Subject: Re: Techno links from a Black perspective (fixed) > >>> To: Denise Dalphond <denisedalph...@gmail.com> > >>> > >>> Have to agree with Denise here, the idea that we can somehow > >> ignore > >>> race in techno (or any other American music forms for that matter) > >> is > >>> ludicrous, especially at the moment. > >>> > >>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 1:32 PM Denise Dalphond > >>> <denisedalph...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Have you read my dissertation? Your suggestion makes no sense. > >> Did > >>>> you know Portia Maultsby was my teacher? Have you seen that chart > >> of > >>>> Black music genres floating around IG and FB? She made that. > >>>> That’s part of her life’s work. And now, since I got to help > >> her > >>>> with it in graduate school, I get to help her update it > >>>> professionally. So, shhhh. > >>>> > >>>> Do you not live in the United States? Do you not understand what > >> is > >>>> changing here in the United States? Stop embarrassing yourself. > >>>> > >>>> And why didn’t you get mad at Andrew Duke for sharing it? > >>>> > >>>> Denise Dalphond > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 5:24 AM Sjoerd <sjoerdvell...@gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Denise, is there any Social Justice Bandwagon you will not jump > >> on? > >>>> For the love of the 808, please refrain from this and find common > >>>> ground in the beauty of this music instead of trying to sow > >> division > >>>> between people by this racebaiting. > >>>> > >>>> I think few people care if the writer of the article has a Black > >> or > >>>> White skin colour, since what matters is the message, and the > >>>> message is T-E-C-H-N-O and Unity between people from all walks of > >>>> life. > >>>> > >>>> Andrew, thanks for posting this. A lot has been written on the > >>>> subject of Detroit Techno and I appreciate someone took the time > >> and > >>>> effort to collect them all. Seriously, the further we move > >> forward > >>>> in time, the more I realize that the future about this > >> technological > >>>> dystopia was already written way back in the 80's, with the > >> origins > >>>> of Techno in the Motorcity. > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, 22 Jun 2020 at 16:11, Denise Dalphond > >>>> <denisedalph...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> A majority of those articles and books are by white people. What > >> do > >>>> they mean by Black perspective. You could also go to the > >> Dancecult > >>>> website: https://dancecult-research.net/references/ > >>>> > >>>> Denise > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 9:53 AM Andrew Duke > >>>> <andrewdukecognit...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Dweller Electronics > >>>> > >>>> writings from a black perspective > >>>> > >>>> Our co-editor Ryan Clarke has researched a list of articles, > >>>> interviews and documentaries about techno and its history. We > >> have > >>>> compiled it into this library that will be updated as we find > >> more > >>>> relevant work. > >>>> > >>>> It is organized by date and divided into two lists “Reading” > >> and > >>>> “Audio/Visual”. > >>>> > >>>> https://dwellerforever.blog/library > >>> -- > >>> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D. > >>> ethnomusicologist > >>> schoolcraftwax.work [1] [1] > >>> > >>> Links: > >>> ------ > >>> [1] http://schoolcraftwax.work > > > > -- > > FBK > > > > Absoloop/Orange 82 > > > > > > Links: > > ------ > > [1] http://schoolcraftwax.work > > -- Denise Dalphond, Ph. D. ethnomusicologist schoolcraftwax.work
