Fred,
 
Norm and I have been having a side discussion.  Each of us read your
response differently.  I get in trouble when I assume.  Could you
clarify your response for me?
 
Thanks,
Dave

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Grooms, Frederick W
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Subject: Re: Submitter Mode - Locked ...Brute force?


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Once a record has been created Remedy will not let you change the
Submitter (field ID 2) field.  Submitter mode Locked means that even if
the Submitter has a Read License they will be able to update the record
(the non system fields of course) where they are the submitter not that
they can change the Submitter field.  
 
Fred

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Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 9:44 AM
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Subject: Re: Submitter Mode - Locked ...Brute force?


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Leigh,

 

There are some spreadsheets I have seen that will do some pretty clever
analysis on workflow from def files.

 

You could also run some sample logging and look for pushes to that
field.

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leigh Gruber
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 10:18 AM
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Subject: Submitter Mode - Locked ...Brute force?

 

Good Morning Listers,

 

We have an existing system operating with the Submitter Mode set to
Changeable.   This system has around 750 forms with a mix of Remedy and
home grown applications.  We need to change submitter mode to Locked so
we can host another custom application which must run in Submitter Mode
Locked.

 

I have 3 questions!

 

1. Is there any way, other than ones that require "brute force", to
determine if the original system has workflow that modifies the
submitter field?  I have set the development box to Submitter Mode
locked and tried some very limited record modification, but I don't have
any testing resources available.

 

Here's what I've tried so far on our dev system (Remedy 6.3; MS SQL
Server):

*       Analyzed Advanced search results on the object_search_details
form.  The selection criteria was ('Item Details' LIKE "%Submitter%")
AND NOT('Item Details' LIKE "%1 = 0%").  I haven't seen a problem in
resulting (100 or so) records. 
*       I've also checked the Submitter field #2 for other names it may
have. 

 

2. Are there any "gotchas" I should know about that might cause us
problems if/when I change the production system?

 

3. Is it safe to assume that our Remedy/BMC applications will NOT have
workflow that writes to the Submitter form?

 

I would appreciate any words of wisdom you might have for me.

 

Many thanks,

Leigh Gruber

  

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