Is this group really that bent on color now? I don't understand why this is an issue...
I also thought that this group was not only for people who currently live in Asbury Park, but anyone who has concerns about it and loves the town. Since we're posting online, and don't see one another (unless anyone knows another outside of this group), we don't see what one another look like, which really shouldn't matter. So, here's me. I currently live in Charleston, SC I grew up on Unami Ave in Wanamassa, just a few blocks from the Sunset Bridge. I spent much of my youth at or near the Asbury boardwalk. I lived as a young adult in Asbury, at 301 Sunset (the beige/brown house on the corner of, I think, Webb) I have always loved the character and architecture of Asbury Park, and have always greatly wished for it to become safe and restored to its original beauty I miss Asbury Park, and wish that it were safe (and affordable) for me to move back there. I still think of this area as "home" Oh, and for those of you who are really particular about what color someone's skin is, I happen to be white. Personally, I could care less what your skin looks like as long as you are a decent person. That's me. Anything else you want to know, please ask. I'm on this group because I care about this city. I miss it, too. Namaste~ Jenni -----Original Message----- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ramona Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:21 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Upperclass boardwalk and downtown? Wow! ... Did I post it in the wrong spot? No it was attributed to you. I was "answering" the group itself ... Questions about the shooting, about Springwood Ave, and about the job program. It has been publicized.. in the coaster .. in the press .. and even in the Asbury Blog! We don't boast for a purpose but we are well known where it counts ... with those that need help. I didn't think I was "ranting" I was "answering" all the assumptions. As far as following the group .. why not? I appreciate all the ideas and opinions everyone has but now everyone seems ANGRY all of a sudden, all of the comments about white vs. black etc.... I finally decide to take the chance and join in ... and I'm getting blasted! Sorry I don't remember or recognize the name and I have been involved since 2006. If you still want to be a part ... invitation is still open. Let me help you out. I am black, if you need me to get technical Black and Indian. I have lived and worked in town since 2005. I use to live in town in my 20's .. rented from Walter Wester if you need a reference. I am raising 2 children here. Can't really answer for my family and their thoughts about Asbury .. but my father, aunt, uncle all live in town too. "Long Branch" Thornton's are my relatives too but I am not that close with them. As for my "mindset" that is your personal opinion and your entitled to it. I won't let it stop me from doing my part in "moving Asbury Forward". Thank you for the encouragement and yes I will put my full name again. Ramona Thornton --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "2fast4u" <sharon_b283@...> wrote: > > > #1, I didn't post this part, yet it appears attributed to me! > > > > Well sharon your points, comments and life experiences (and the > success of raising your family) are well taken. > > > > > > Once again, it's that "be ready...cause trouble is waiting.." > > > > > > That's the scary part - for lack of better words. > > > > > > So why don't the community leaders - all these organizations that > ARE there to help, take action. Talk to the kids and parents. > > > > > > What are the REAL issues? > > > > > > - Is it housing > > > - quality of life > > > - lack of work - what kind of work would one accept > > > ... > > > > > > Employment: > > > - What kind of programs are in place within the city with city and > surrounding employers. > > > > > > > > > For example: Are there any intern programs with Jersey Shore Medical > - between the HS and JS?? If not, why not? Seems like a natural. > > > > > > - does the city have any interns? How about the chamber of > commerce? > > > How about Madison Marquette. I call them interns, but if the > business can't afford to pay for it, I'd say take it from the school $ > or other grant money. The kids can work 25 hours per week, $9 per hour. > That's 225 per week gross. 10 weeks - each kid gets $2250. Take 200 > kids. Pennies for such a program. Can you get kids to work $9.00? IS it > worth more to keep them off the street - then go for it. $12 hour? > > > > > > - how about kids that graduated from AP High? Where did they go, > what are they doing now? Anyone know? Does anyone track their careers? > Can they come back and talk to other kids???? > > > > > > What kinds of employment programs exist in the school system with a > $90 million budget. (as for employment programs, I meant for the kids - > not admin) > > > > > > There is only so much that can be done. You need intelligent people > running these programs and people that want to participate. Without, you > have people making comments like "we gonna burn the place down" or "be > ready". > > > > > > That is what has to be addressed by those who interact with the > local community. And those leaders should be inviting in african > american owned businesses. And those leaders should ensure that if > something is built or renovated on the west side, that bricks don't get > thrown through the windows or lights shattered. > > > > > > Would it make difference if you just gave everyone, and I mean > everyone $1,000,000? Every resident, any color. > > > > > > What do you think? > > > > > > The one that pisses it away after two weeks would be pissed at the > guy who saved it, right? > > Furthurmore, who are you addressing? Why isn't what you're "doing" publicized? > You say you're following the group. Why? You reply to ME, then go on a rant? > I at least identify myself as a Woman of color. Who are YOU? Yes, I remember > Asbury Works and all I could remember was Tamara, forget her last name and > I assumed the program went belly up like everything around here. I was involved > in the initial start up of AW but I've had health issues, dropped out of posting for almost > a year, but you at least identified yourself, which some posters DON'T do and the only > time they post something is when they've been thrown off a board, lose an > election or have some assinine comment that turn most of us off! > > We're in this group because we LIVE here, we WORK here and have seen > Asbury Park go down the drain from developers that want to turn AP into > South Beach Florida or SoHo South! You have a mindset that tells me, you > work here, but either don't live here but like most NJ natives, because I think > I know your family, think their home, example: Long Branch, Red Bank,'Belmar, et.al., > think THEIR hometown is way better. That might be true, but we here are ONLY > interested in what gets Asbury Park moving forward! > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Ramona" <ramonicoshay@> wrote: > > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > My name is Ramona Thornton and I am the "program manager" for the jobs > > program, its "leadership" has changed many hands, but the "program > > manager" is still trying to make a difference. I have been "watching" > > this board for quite some time now. I think I can shed some light on a > > couple of issues that have been coming up recently. > > First of all I don't "see" any racist people on this group I only "see" > > frustrated intelligent individuals that are having problems wrapping > > their minds around so many problems in a 1 mile town. > > > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links ------------------------------------ Yahoo! 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