pfarrell Wrote: > > So you have at best dualing theories. >
I never wanted to 'dual'. I just mentioned that using two subs is a ubiquitous suggestion. If it were a dual, you already lost-IMHO. I went to the outlaw site to read about the sub Jon mentioned, lo and behold they recommend using two. _______________________________________________________ "Q. I see you offer the S2 package. Do I really need two subwoofers? While the LFM-1 is capable of playing wall-rattling bass, the main benefit for two subwoofers is not added volume but a wider sweet spot. With one subwoofer, bass will only be optimized for one listening position. Using two subwoofers enables you to increase the size of the sweet spot to cover a wider portion of the listening area." ________________________________________________________[1] Granted they make no provision for size of mains etc, but their reasoning as listed is poor anyway. However, I can't find ANY sites that say definitevly, 'one sub is enough'. I would love to read something interesting if you have the links, Pat, but please no more crash test dummie articles. Jon made a good point that some of what helps us place a low tone in space is the accompanying harmonics, which I see as a further reason to use two subs. I agree that using the eq will solve more problems than it creates, if used correctly, however smoother frequency response is but one of the advantages of two subs. I also agree that two subs are more expensive, but would the sound be better through equalization than it would have been by investing in a second sub? RE WAF----->when talking theoretically there is no room for wifey in the equations. The most important aspect, which seems to be getting ignored by everyone but me, is probably envelopment of sound in the VLF's. When Robin Miller did testing with a panel of 6 recording professionals, 3 could locate to 50hz, and 1 to 45hz reliably. However, the interesting thing is how the subjects described the differences in sound. In mono the the description of the VLF sounds went from 'merely varying in level' at 1Hz to 'strongly and uncomfortably localized in-head' at the upper reaches of the VLF's. Contrast that with the binaural sounds being described as 'swirling around the room', and 'like a slowly revolving hula hoop around the head'. Sounds fun to me :) The results, Robin found, were most effective at 56Hz and higher, with diminished effect at 50-45 Hz. I'd be happy to note also that there was no spatial impression below 45Hz. It's not like this is a new theory, see 6moons October 2003: ____________________________________________________ "In fact, many listeners might even question the advantages of stereo separation below 40Hz to begin with. Their loss. " _____________________________________________________[2] I just like a good discussion, and look forward to one. [1]http://www.outlawaudio.com/support/faq_lfm1.html [2]http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/vbt/magellan82.html PS. Thanks for the pics ezkcdude, but no more por favor! I meant I wanted to see your veneer work, after seeing your DIY's, but didn't realize it was textured plastic this time. -- Skunk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20197 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
