Robin Bowes;542757 Wrote: > On 02/05/10 23:53, mswlogo wrote: > > > > As I have defended myself the insults go up. > > > > So now you're saying the example I gave isn't clipping? > > You will recall that I have said previously: > > "... or you're possibly using the term incorrectly." > > I believe you are using the term incorrectly. There is a subtle > difference between "clipping" and compression/limiting. Raw clipping > is > bad. Compression/limiting is used to increase the apparent loudness of > tracks (see Loudness wars [1]), which I personally thinks is almost as > bad! > > > Your right, I was correcting the "increase in dynamic range" in that > > post when you replied. I'll let you dig it out. > > I actually read the forum via the mailing list interface so I only get > to see your first posting, not subsequent edits. > > > There is at least 1/2 dozen folks that replied to this thread > staeing > > keeping Transporter/SB at full scale is critical. I totally agree and > I > > tried to explain why that's the case to folks that do hear it. If > you > > don't hear it. That's absolutely fantastic. Keep spinning that dial > all > > you want. > > There *are* at least 1/2 dozen folks who have stated that it is > important to keep the Transporter *near* full-scale for > well-understood > reasons. I think you are the only person who is stating that it should > be kept *at* full-scale. > > R. > > [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war
In the correction I said your not actually getting more dynamic range but your better fitting the data to the window of dynamic range you have by letting it clip a little. If folks are using "The Knob" I highly doubt many use it from strickly at the top end. They either think it is safe to use for like 30dB or not. I swing my analog easily 30dB and if folks do that digitally they are killing the quality of the audio. Then folks jumped in saying you won't hear the loss at low levels (B.S.). Granted there might be VERY few that have matched there analog gain such that they stay in the top 10dB (digitally). But I suspect that is extremely rare. -- mswlogo XP > Cat5 > Transporter/DuetController > SPDIF > Meridian G68 > DSP6000, DSP5500HC, DSP5000 XP > Cat5 > SB3 > SPDIF > Meridian DSP5000 XP > Cat5 > DuetReceiver > SPDIF > Meridian G91 > DSP5000 'My Transporter Setup' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=350741&postcount=45) 'Hitch Hikers Guide to Meridian' (http://www.meridianunplugged.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ mswlogo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9090 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77725 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
