Not to defend him, but different people react differently.  I would say PTSD
played a role in this and that more than likely, the Marine's metal health
serves failed this soldier, but the fact does remain that he went on to
murder people.  Sometimes the "crazy" doesn't come to the surface until
triggered.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 3:02 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Is madness the verdict in the Afghan massacre by US soldier?


pretty sure there will be an insanity defense. And I think I saw that he saw
friend get his leg blown off the day before. But still. The answer to that,
I think is that a lot of soldiers live through horrifying situations, and
don't go out and shoot children afterwards. The guy who shot two cops and a
few more random people in Albuqueruque about three years ago was certifiably
bat-shit crazy, and his doctor changed his meds. Him I feel for a little
bit, because he *did* go to the ER and say please help me, and didn't get
it. (And as I recall, he's in a mental health hospital now, not jail. But
he's locked up, and probably won't ever get out.)

If he was crazy enough to shoot children why was he on active duty?

If he was crazy enough and distressed enough to do this then why didn't he
seek help? As far as I know even in Kandahar there's a way to say you know
what, I'm losing it. I scare myself. Take my gun away. If he's just an
asshole, throw the book at him. This is one of the most egregious crimes
I've ever heard of, a) because it was a massacre of the helpless and b)
because of the harm it does to the war effort. It wiped out the gains made
because of the sacrifices of many, many other soldiers.



On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Tony <tonyw...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> am I insane to think that this kinda thing is not surprising at all, 
> that we have driven out boys to madness (some of them) and that 
> although he pulled the trigger, it's our lust for war and oil that is 
> the cause of this, and the more we re-deploy and re-deploy more and 
> more of this will continue. I mean, the dude was TRAINED to kill, has 
> seen the unimaginable, has more flashbacks than we can conceive and we 
> drove him to this. just look at they murdered wives and others when 
> dudes come home from the frontlines. it's gotta be hard to separate 
> all of this mentally and expect to come back with any sort of normalcy
intact.
>
> idk I feel for him, and his family
>
> On Thursday, March 22, 2012, Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions < 
> ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Vivec <gel21...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> He's going to face 17 counts of murder.
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
> http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/22/10816077-defense-offic
> ial-staff-sgt-robert-bales-to-face-17-murder-counts-in-afghanistan-mas
> sacre
> >>
> >
> > In other kinda off topic but interesting tangent news; at least a 
> > police Chief has stepped down.
> >
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/22/bill-lee-trayvon-martin_n_137
> 3475.html
> >
> >
> >
>
> 



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