that's where I was going with the why was he on active duty thing. But I am not buying that it's all the fault of the Army and they should have seen it coming, either. Not unless a whole lot comes out at trial about him asking for help and not getting it.
By the way, anyone know if courts-martial normally permit media coverage? On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > Not to defend him, but different people react differently. I would say > PTSD > played a role in this and that more than likely, the Marine's metal health > serves failed this soldier, but the fact does remain that he went on to > murder people. Sometimes the "crazy" doesn't come to the surface until > triggered. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 3:02 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Is madness the verdict in the Afghan massacre by US soldier? > > > pretty sure there will be an insanity defense. And I think I saw that he > saw > friend get his leg blown off the day before. But still. The answer to that, > I think is that a lot of soldiers live through horrifying situations, and > don't go out and shoot children afterwards. The guy who shot two cops and a > few more random people in Albuqueruque about three years ago was > certifiably > bat-shit crazy, and his doctor changed his meds. Him I feel for a little > bit, because he *did* go to the ER and say please help me, and didn't get > it. (And as I recall, he's in a mental health hospital now, not jail. But > he's locked up, and probably won't ever get out.) > > If he was crazy enough to shoot children why was he on active duty? > > If he was crazy enough and distressed enough to do this then why didn't he > seek help? As far as I know even in Kandahar there's a way to say you know > what, I'm losing it. I scare myself. Take my gun away. If he's just an > asshole, throw the book at him. This is one of the most egregious crimes > I've ever heard of, a) because it was a massacre of the helpless and b) > because of the harm it does to the war effort. It wiped out the gains made > because of the sacrifices of many, many other soldiers. > > > > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Tony <tonyw...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > am I insane to think that this kinda thing is not surprising at all, > > that we have driven out boys to madness (some of them) and that > > although he pulled the trigger, it's our lust for war and oil that is > > the cause of this, and the more we re-deploy and re-deploy more and > > more of this will continue. I mean, the dude was TRAINED to kill, has > > seen the unimaginable, has more flashbacks than we can conceive and we > > drove him to this. just look at they murdered wives and others when > > dudes come home from the frontlines. it's gotta be hard to separate > > all of this mentally and expect to come back with any sort of normalcy > intact. > > > > idk I feel for him, and his family > > > > On Thursday, March 22, 2012, Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions < > > ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Vivec <gel21...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> He's going to face 17 counts of murder. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/22/10816077-defense-offic > > ial-staff-sgt-robert-bales-to-face-17-murder-counts-in-afghanistan-mas > > sacre > > >> > > > > > > In other kinda off topic but interesting tangent news; at least a > > > police Chief has stepped down. > > > > > > > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/22/bill-lee-trayvon-martin_n_137 > > 3475.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:349006 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
