Not totally correct...if you are pulled over by the sheriff's department or
state police, there is a possibility you can go to county because that is
also where the courts are at.  When my wife went to jail for child support
non-payment (when she was unemployed), she went to county.  It depends on
the offense and who arrested you.  Even if a city cop arrests you, after
they process you, you may be sent to county to await a bond hearing.

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 2:00 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Supreme Court: Strip searches just fine for any offense, no
matter how small


It seems you may have an idea of the location the searches took place that
might not be accurate (and this explanation may not even matter - but I am
going to try anyway).

These strip searches were not done in a local police department after the
man was brought to the police station. They were done in county jails. The
difference between them is like the difference between a jail cell in a NY
police precinct and Riker's Island. In NJ, the county jails are not where
you go when you are arrested, its where you go when you are convicted of a
crime that is not 'severe' enough to be put in state prison (or are awaiting
trial and were denied or cannot afford bail).

Should everyone who gets arrested get strip searched? I don't believe so.
Should everyone who is being brought into a corrections facility as a
prisoner get strip searched? I think that is the prudent think to do.

Once again, I think the travesty here is that an innocent man (who had a
letter proving his innocence) was put into the system as a prisoner
- not how he was treated as a prisoner when he got there.

On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Judah McAuley <ju...@wiredotter.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Cameron Childress <camer...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>
>> IMHO - being admitted to a jail is more than enough reasonable 
>> suspicion and probable cause for a search. Period.
>>
>> This guy should never have been admitted to jail, but that's not an 
>> issue for the jail personel to decide. It should never have gotten to
that point.
>
> And that's the sort of attitude that has caused the erosion of the 4th 
> Amendment. If the cops feel like they ought to arrest someone, well, 
> that ought to be good enough? It's bad enough that people can get put 
> in jail at the whim of an officer. At least there is some minimal 
> recourse for false arrest. But now we are also saying that an 
> invasive, full body strip search is just going to be the standard part 
> of depriving you of your liberty. I think that's absurd and dangerous.
>
> Think about recent protests, for example. 100 people get arrested and 
> detained. Everyone knows that those people are going to be held for 
> probably a couple hours, then released. The DA will probably waive 
> charges for most of them. If you get a hard ass DA, they might get 
> brought to a mass court hearing and everyone gets hit with community 
> service and probation. Not a big deal.
>
> Now, you really think it is reasonable and worthwhile to strip search 
> every single one of those 100 protestors? What is gained? Why is it 
> reasonable? Do we really need to sacrifice the dignity and humanness 
> of all these people for the sake of...what? I don't even know.
>
> Judah
>
> 



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