On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 03:05:06PM -0500, Kevin Atkinson wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Jan 2002, Timm Murray wrote:
>
> > I am certain that the FBI and other similar groups have been waiting for
> > something like this for years so they can get in all their wiretapping laws
> > and such. While elected areas of the government may be prone to stupidity,
> > the unelected areas (such as the FBI/NSA/CIA/whatever) are often extremely
> > intelligent. I remember being told that you have to have a masters degree
> > to
> > get in to the US Marshels, and I believe that extends to the FBI as well.
> > The NSA employs an awful lot of expert mathmatitions for creating and
> > breaking crypto, so they're no fools. These are the groups we should be
> > most
> > worried about.
> >
> > Further, what else would make an unpopular president suddenly skyrocket to
> > 90%+ approval ratings?
> >
> > I don't know if they really knew about the attacks beforehand, but the
> > hypothisis fits the available facts.
>
> Have some faith in our government. The government would never plan something
> like this. If they did now about it ahead of time it was probably lack of
> communication that caused the word not to get out in time.
Why? First thing, remember that government is amoral and has no
ethics, practically by definition. Second thing, the optimum state of
government is eternal war externally and totalitarianism internally;
of course, this is concealed by the propaganda organs of capitalism
and the state in most "modern" states (as contrasting to old Nazi and
Soviet style totalitarianism, which did not have nearly as advanced
and sophisticated propaganda as the United States today, contrary to
popular belief). Third thing, to the people in government and the
ruling class in general, all non-ruling class life is purely
expendable - any views that appear otherwise are really just
propaganda - for it is in their interests to have such views. One
should not have faith in the government, for one's interests and the
interests of the ruling class are fundamentally opposed to each other,
and are irreconcilable. To have faith in the government is to ignore
history and to ignore human nature, and is the result of naivete,
ignorance, stupidity, and indoctrination.
> Also, the wiretap laws really don't bother me. Why? Because, they
> probably have been doing it anyway, but in secret. The phone and
> unencrypted Internet communications are widely known to be insecure methods
> of communication. What would of unset me was that if it was also coupled
> with making strong encryption illegal or if they reenacted the export laws
> on encryption, fortunately they did not do this.
The law means fucking nothing. Period. It is really just a curtain
designed to blind people from the reality that the power and the will
of the state is really all that matters, and to indoctrinate people
into pure obedience, to cow people into submission without even having
to do anything. Thus, one should not view a cop as a "law enforcement
agent" but as a government paramilitary soldier. Following or even
acknowledging the law only makes the system stronger and one weaker,
by psychologically tying one into a pattern of rote obedience and
submission, and giving the system an air of "legitimacy." Of course,
"legitimacy" is purely a psychological tool, for in reality it means
nothing.
--
Yes, I know my enemies.
They're the teachers who tell me to fight me.
Compromise, conformity, assimilation, submission, ignorance,
hypocrisy, brutality, the elite.
All of which are American dreams.
- Rage Against The Machine
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