This archaic line of thought has been around for ages...in every conceivable
organization, since Ally Oop was a fetus...for example, "I had to walk five
miles to school every day when I was a kid", or "The old corps was better".

Some people are lucky enough to find an employer who will hire a no-nothing
and train them into a qualified network administrator.  Others aren't...they
have to work for certifications and then get employed in the networking
field.  For most, having a certification just means they are trying to be
better (better job, advancement, change careers, etc)....what can be wrong
with that?  In the long run it is always your skill, dedication,
perseverance, knowledge, attitude, etc., etc. that get you ahead, not the
perceived value of your certification.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 3:51 PM
Subject: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX


> I will probably get yelled at for this one but...
>
> I am a CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, and yes going after the CCIE.
> So up front I am not against certs.
>
> I am becoming aware of more and more people becoming
> Cisco certified and not know enough to go and actually
> do the work. Our company has and is interviewing for
> network folks, I have the opportunity to interview
> these people to verify technical experience. I have
> had CCNA, CCNP, and yes even CCIE written folks who
> could not tell me what they 'should' acutally know.
>
>
> This scares me because I am also working hard toward
> my certs and the CCIE. But it has been proven and is
> showing up more that these people are becoming "paper"
> Cisco folks, as in the paper MCSE.
>
> I know and hope the CCIE LAB and title will remain as
> difficult if not more so in the future. I for one do
> not want to spend a year of my life gaining the CCIE
> title to be one among thousands who also have it.
>
> That is my insite and hope Cisco will
> try to make it more difficult to obtain the CCNP/DP
> and not become another MCSE program.
>
>
>
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