Dennis,
Looks very similar to what was on Corsair, Hull #7.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1sTBZGtbZlym6_0Iw0S5DZOiWYHahCVI7
Neil Schiller
1983 C&C 35-3, #028. "Grace"
Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC
On 1/29/2019 9:20 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:
The original post is below.
My buddy has the pedestal and associated parts for stripping and
painting with AwlGrip. Aircraft stripper does indeed remove powder
coat. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1OgW3dWk9fqRkoQwowu_fwg5fGehKcd_g
A local rigging shop is duplicating the wire rope cable for me. The
fitting on the end of the cable that attaches to the chain is
apparently called a chain eye as opposed to a marine eye or aircraft eye.
There seems to be a major change in the rudder stop design. Touche'
is Hull 83.
Thanks to Russ, I have a good example of what a rudder stop should
look like. Note the strong vertical structural member with gussets.
The two plates mounted to the bottom of the quadrant stop against
aluminum plates with rubber cushions on either side of the vertical
structural member.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_9BPN1H7YXs586x93QLT8saZVIKJxDSr
Unfortunately, Touche' only has a thin gusset for the rudder tube:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1jaJX92DAx9vOgV2TWk-fchKrc3k3Zj2h
One other difference is that Touche's quadrant is installed upside
down from the one on Russ' boat. Go figure. That doesn't seem to be
a big deal. The plates will just have to be mounted on the top of the
quadrant.
I am going to have to install a vertical structural member. Still
finalizing the design but it will be similar to Russ' boat. Going to
be very uncomfortable working in there.
I'm thinking about bonding 3 pieces of marine ply together with the
middle piece shorter so the thing slips down over the existing rudder
post gusset. I can then through bolt it in place and then tab it to
the hull. I will probably also make it with the athwartships gussets
in place so all I need do is tab them to the hull. The gussets are
extremely important due to the side loading of the stops. The more I
do outside the space the easier it will be.
I won't start the job until March after I return from skiing. I'll
document the process and provide a link.
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 2:50 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Well, I disassembled Touche's steering system yesterday for a
loooong overdue maintenance session. As in it's never been done
in 47 years! Touche's steering system is by Morch.
If you haven't checked your steering system, maybe this will
inspire you to do so.
Oh, no! Someone stole my pedestal!!
https://drive.google.com/open?id=12p-nlp8FEwqR0zhDrqlHqxkb7UMa0iSx
I hope you find this helpful. I found some items of concern.
Concern 1. One of the steering cables had a broken strand.
* See:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Mu-dmCnPnDFdd5jGHnkBAGSqbGL6jnrw
* The break occurred where the cable made a sharp bend around
the quadrant just before the adjusting stud.
* See:
http://www.bwsailing.com/bw/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Edson-Quadrant-Dwg.jpg
* A buddy of mine who recently rebuilt the system in his Hans
Christian 38 said he saw the same on his
Concern 2. Some of the teeth on the chain sprocket were damaged.
This was a complete surprise.
* See:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1amngA8i-rm1IkBvn0HhyVGeNrj7T6NSk
* And:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1a1czFpkvfnyQuFbNIlfHZehhwk-Wyl-8
* This was apparently caused by the way C&C/Morch made stops to
limit the travel of the rudder. They put a bolt at each end of
the chain. The bolts must have caused the damage when the
wheel reached its limit.
* Note the two bolts with washers and nuts through the links of
the chain here:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1nvJzh8xWDgetBCEE8eeOAtz4-up4ZvCf
Non-concerns. The rest of the system looked pretty good. The
idler sheaves and bracket under the pedestal appeared to be in
good condition. I started to remove it but decided it will be
easier to just pull the pins, remove the sheaves, clean, lube and
re-install.
The turning sheaves and brackets looked to be in good condition.
(See:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1jie9IxSqSKorp3FaJtcKjbsNh3nD1TBU).
I cleaned them and will lube and re-install.
Next I needed to disassemble the engine control assembly so it can
be stripped and painted. Using guidance from Chuck, here's that
process.
* Back off or remove the two small Phillips head retaining
machine screws.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1VxT_ApckY55M7xXKoctIShPmIKxgrFUj
* Move one lever COMPLETELY to one side and push the other lever
out.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1nqwnvA1UYDEHFVfuH9xi_-sy6YJrSOLE
* Then remove the other lever.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1pjlIMBqk3lTdZ0vtSWg6TfnNFOcpXQZY
Next steps.
* Strip powder coat off the pedestal and associated parts and
paint with AwlGrip. Buddy of mine has leftover paint from
painting his mast.
* Replace both cables. I'm deciding on this. Edson's cable and
wire kits look like simple swaged thimble eyes and fine thread
eye bolts. I have a Nicropress swaging tool, swages and
thimbles. I could make up the wire and buy the eye bolts. On
the other hand, we have a local rigging shop who could machine
swage nicer replacements. I think I may ask them for a quote.
* The sprocket. Hmmmm. The chain makes a full 180 degree wrap
over the sprocket. I believe there are plenty of undamaged
teeth that will work. On the other hand, I could try to get
the sprocket off the shaft and have a machine shop make a new
one. I think that would be a risky option. First, I'm not sure
how I would remove the sprocket. It has set screws
(https://drive.google.com/open?id=12GbE75ERXZGgz_NalJ93RcXf6rKvL5fi).
I removed a small one on the sprocket and a larger one on a
collar adjacent to it. I suspect there is a keyway on the
sprocket. It showed no signs of moving. There are some
inventive ways to try to pull the shaft but again, they all
have risk. Then there's the issue of the bearings. If I muck
up the bearings, I'm screwed.
* Give some thought to a better way to stop the wheel at the
travel limits.
Here's the link to the folder with all the pics.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=14-oaTFUoebWqxBo8xeUm9K8tPn7xObKE
So, again, if you haven't check your steering system, you might
want to move that up your work list a bit. :)
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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