Hi Sophie, Thanks for your mail; I agree - this particular dead-end of the thread got a little unpleasant & highly charged; I'm well up for killing it.
On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 20:42 +0100, sophie wrote: > We are now thinking about SCA, an adapted one to our community, so no > need to quarrel about what is already behind. Is there a link to a copy of that somewhere ? (or is the thinking going on on a public mailing list ?). > If you really have this energy to argue, please come and discuss how we > can reenforce our workflow, our communication flow, our visibility and > add more power to our community. I think I'm missing something here. Is there a public statement anywhere that means discussing the unbalanced ownership problems, that (clearly) substantilly impeed Novell's involvement (and that of other developers) is fruitless ? Are you aware of any such statement, or indication from Sun, that says this problem is un-solvable; whatever the community wants ? Of course, such a statement might shut down such discussion pretty quickly, but I havn't seen any clear public statement of that form. Indeed, I've not seen many clear, black & white statements about the compromises necessary to accomodate our major sponsor's business interest (which is of course necessary to some degree) inside the project; and what plans there are for the future here. > But confidence is a key word in all these discussions to make them > come to real facts. So please, really, stop this fight, and allow us > to think at something that is reflecting our common love for OOo. So - I think we were getting there - we'd finally got past some of the more basic, emotive, low-level arguments, and were starting to communicate; at least mba & I seemed happy: http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=21708 clearly no-one wants to shut down a whole discussion on a topic like this, (and without a conclusion) on the basis of a few sub-threads unfortunately disappearing off into the long grass. I've renamed my reply to remove the odious Butler :-) would be a good move; perhaps as/when we continue other discussions to do the same. Thanks, Michael. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]