On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 01:52, Tracy R Reed wrote: > The developers need to decide whether freenet is ready for general use or > not. They have led a lot of people to have some expectation of usefulness > despite the fact that it is clearly alpha software yet they have a release > called "stable". I suspect part of the problem is major bugs in > implementation compounded by lack of testing and scientific method in > diagnosing bugs (ie. running NGR and older stuff). But others disagree. :) <RANT>
I personally agree with your description of the problem, although there isn't a darned thing I can do about it. Fred has become essentially unusable here - the only things I'm able to fetch are things that were stored local to my node MONTHS AGO. This is pathetic. I have a broadband connection with a 36GB store allocated to freenet, only ~2GB is actually being used however. What I find completely astonishing about this though is that with my outbound limited to 10KB/S I'm almost getting as many hits locally as servers 'globally' - That just sounds *wrong* to me, or freenet really is so badly off now that my node is doing better than it should be. I am using build 6220. Fproxy bookmarks page has NO LINKS other than ones local in the store working. Zero dbr links! Just for the record, this is the jvm from my environment page. I was told by people to use this version as the newest jvm has serious bugs. If this has changed, and explains my PERVERSE problems, please tell me. JVM Vendor Sun Microsystems Inc. JVM Name Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM JVM Version 1.4.1_04-b01 Frost, which was working a couple of days ago on an earlier version of freenet isn't even able to function AT ALL now. It's finding NO posts, at all. It's unable to INSERT my posts, either. I did not upgrade frost, only freenet. So, it's freenet not working. >From network load: Global mean traffic (queries per hour):12522.75 Local mean traffic (queries per hour): 10290.3510404307667 See what I mean?! What's UP with this?! My node is limited to 10KB/S outbound bandwidth - is the network seriously this starved for information that mine is actually providing the majority of bandwidth in my area?! Things have been getting progressively worse as time has gone on. I mean, seriously - things are WORSE for me now than when I initially JOINED with 0.5.0. Anyone else remember the amusing (if you weren't trying to deal with it) screwups? Seriously, if I was a developer I'd neuter the current development tree and go back to a known working version, even if it was slower, even if it had problems - because right now things are GENEROUSLY fucked, and NOTHING is working right. And before you go off telling me to use stable, I tried using stable. The reason why I WENT to unstable is that stable is just about as usable as unstable right now, and has been for months. WHY is it things are allowed to PERSIST like this? If you know something in the development tree is having problems, why on EARTH do you stuff it into the stable tree as you obviously have? Stable trees should be old things that don't get touched often - because you want them to NOT be used for experimentation. Development trees are for that. Please, for the LOVE OF GOD, stop putting partially tested things into the stable tree. I'm going to give freenet one more month to improve. If I don't see improvement AT LEAST to the level that *some* dbr pages start showing up in my fproxy bookmarks again, preferably to the level that 0.5.0 'functioned' - I'm giving up, deleting my store and I'll find some other anonymizing system. THAT ACTUALLY WORKS. Yeah, I'm angry. If you want to ban me from the email list, do so. I don't care. I'm tired of this - people just point fingers everywhere when I ask what the reasons are for the problems persisting. (not EXISTING, PERSISTING. They aren't being fixed.) </RANT> Thank you, Good NIGHT. _______________________________________________ Devl mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl