On 09/21/2015 03:46 PM, Bryan Richter wrote: > I am writing a lengthier missive on this topic, but I wanted to > briefly summarize my point of view. After much deliberation I have > come to agree with most of Robert's points. Right now my top choice is > "We support the digital commons". > > Well, ok, I'll make this one a little longer right now. There are a > couple things I think we need to address explicitly that have gotten > only passing mention so far: Who is the audience, and what is the > context for the message? > > It seems quite clear that the audience is the general public, and I > think it should be. That means FLO is out. Libre is out. Free is out. > Open is meh. "The commons", on the other hand, is a well-established > noun (late 14th century, according to etymonline.com) that means > exactly what we want. "The digital commons" is the perfect narrowing > of focus that reflects who we are. (Sorry, Robert, it definitely needs > "the" to be proper English.) "Support" is the most concise word to > describe our mission, a point I will expand on in my next email. It > also has a delightful double meaning that is so en vogue for slogans: > It evokes both a statement of solidarity ("We support workers' > rights...") as well as hinting at what we actually do. > > Now, what is the context? I think the context is "a phrase we can put > next to our logo, wherever we deign to put our logo". I can think of > two concrete examples that demonstrate it: a t-shirt and a flyer. > Let's start with the flyer: > > > Help Free The Commons! > > We at Snowdrift.coop lorem ipsum > dolor sit amet, consectetur > adipiscing elit. Donec a diam > lectus. Sed sit amet ipsum > mauris. Maecenas congue ligula > ac quam viverra nec consectetur > ante hendrerit. Donec et mollis > dolor. Praesent et diam eget > libero egestas mattis sit amet > vitae augue. Nam tincidunt congue > enim, ut porta lorem lacinia > consectetur. > > <S> Snowdrift.coop > We support the digital commons > > Note the difference between the catchy header at the top, and the > slogan, which is attached to our name. I think, in this example, this > is definitely how we'd want things laid out. If we take the catchy > phrase and make it the slogan, we have to reach for something else, > something inferior, to use as the header! > > Similarly for a t-shirt, with both phrases occurring but in their > appropriate positions: > > > FRONT > > Help Free the Commons! > <Mimi and Eunice do something clever on a field of snow> > > > BACK > > <S> Snowdrift.coop > We support the digital commons > > > Now, try putting "Help free the commons" in the slogan's context. It > just wouldn't work. To me, that makes it very clear which one is the > slogan, and which one is something else. Basically, I think anywhere > we think to put our logo is a place we could also put the phrase "We > support the digital commons". That, coupled with the fact that it > accurately and concisely describes the project, is what makes it a > good slogan. > > As a final remark, I want to point out that nothing would stop us from > having e.g. multiple buttons, each with different phrases. We can have > more than one slogan or catchphrase. :) But if we're going to pick > just one that will most commonly be paired with our name and logo, I > think we should pick "We support the digital commons". > > Coming up, I want to talk about why we might want a *second* slogan, > one that actually uses the terms "FLO" or "Free" or "Libre". I'll get > to it later, in a couple days maybe. >
Thanks Bryan! To add to the running stuff and build on my points ("Digital Commons" is unfortunately trademarked, not sure if that's fatal here, also it makes it *harder* to play on the physical metaphor…), your suggestion (thanks for going through it so well), could be modified to just: "We support the commons" or "support the commons" even. However, I don't think either of those works as well as "we support the digital commons" because they sound too vague and uninspiring. I don't particular dislike "we support the commons" but my favorite now remains "free the commons!" without any other qualifiers or "support" or "help" bits. I can see business cards and shirts and more that just say "Snowdrift.coop — free the commons!" essentially. And the header in your example could be "support the digital commons!" or "help support the digital commons!" or "Help support free/libre/open works!" I think those work well as separate non-slogan headers… -- Aaron Wolf Snowdrift.coop <https://snowdrift.coop> _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.snowdrift.coop https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo/discuss