> I once suggested to Wayne that he charge something for 'premium' firmware, 
> possibly with specialized features that not everyone would want. That would 
> give them some revenue to finance continued development for existing products.
> 
> He told me -- in no uncertain terms -- that Elecraft would never, ever charge 
> anything for firmware updates.

I can imagine the nasty world of managing a whole slew of different versions of 
the K3 (firmware) if Elecraft started releasing options for a fee.  That means 
that if they did this enough times, no two K3s would be the same (well, yes 
that is a little extreme) -- But, the problem is not receiving money for the 
firmware updates but the added expense of managing versions of your software.  
The way things are now, each release includes all fixes, patches, and updates 
of earlier releases -- the smart way to maintain software in the field.

I have been in the software business for 45 years and 35 of that was delivering 
custom systems from a common base where managing updates and bug fixes was a 
nightmare.  It is still a nightmare since the nature of the software virtually 
ruled out the idea of deploying the same system over and over.  Our software 
maintenance staff was larger then the development staff.

Elecraft should work to avoid problems like that whenever they can.  I applaud 
Wayne's decision because it is the right thing to do business-wise.

73, phil, K7PEH


On Apr 3, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Vic Rosenthal K2VCO <k2vco....@gmail.com> wrote:

> I too am an 'old' K3 owner (in more than one sense). I have K3 #0007. Yes, 
> /seven/. I was one of the incredibly lucky members of a focus group when the 
> K3 was still in prototype form.
> 
> I love my K3 as much as anyone can 'love' a radio. But I agree with Dave, Joe 
> and Ian that the K3 still has some rough edges.
> 
> My analysis is that this is an economic problem. Elecraft has to pay the 
> bills, which they can't do unless they sell stuff. I once suggested to Wayne 
> that he charge something for 'premium' firmware, possibly with specialized 
> features that not everyone would want. That would give them some revenue to 
> finance continued development for existing products.
> 
> He told me -- in no uncertain terms -- that Elecraft would never, ever charge 
> anything for firmware updates.
> 
> In any transaction you get what you pay for, and we have no way to pay for 
> continued K3 development.
> 
> On 4/3/2014 2:12 PM, David and Dianne on Comcast wrote:
>> Joe, W4TV and Ian, GM3SEK; I found both of your posts to be spot on with
>> me and very insightful.
>> 
>> I own K3 #371 and have been disappointed with the lack of its further
>> development in the past 18 months or the "finishing" of some features as
>> mentioned by Ian.. And as much as I have tried, really tried, for SIX
>> years to adapt to the "tap and hold" button feature...it's not for me.
>> 
>> When new, the K3 was a blast to own, to use and to participate in the
>> development of it for about the first four years. But my attitude
>> towards it has changed in the past two years or so.
>> 
>> It's not the the K3 is "bad", far from it, but  it could be refined into
>> an even better rig rather than into an apparent development stepping
>> stone for the KX3 which holds no interest here for me. To me, one of the
>> shortcomings of SDR is that the promise of on-going support and upgrades
>> is usually not fulfilled in the long run, for myriad business and
>> technology related reasons. I view promises from any manufacturer (TT,
>> ICOM, Kenwood, Flex etc.) concerning future, long-term firmware
>> development with great skepticism. It never continues past a certain
>> time-frame which is usually ends much sooner than one initially
>> expects.  As for updated/redeveloped K3 boards to be forthcoming, I hope
>> ... but expect not. So I am not holding out hope for any further
>> meaningful development for the K3. Elecraft has been far better with it
>> than most but it appears that the K3 with 8000+ units sold is now a
>> mature product which will see refinements and enhancements as rarer and
>> rarer occurrences if at all.
>> 
>> I have found myself contemplating parting ways with the K3 and Elecraft
>> of late being drawn back to using  my TT Corsair II and Omni V.9 more
>> and more. Highly modified by me, they compete very favorably with the K3
>> for my op style and expectations. (IMO TT has gone in a very strange
>> business direction of late which causes me to wonder what they are doing).
>> 
>> Everyone is entitled to their personal opinions and for most the K3
>> seems to still be the epitome of HF rig evolution. That's fine. I mean
>> you no bad will nor is my intention to convince you otherwise.
>> 
>> But after six years I still miss my dedicated band switching (with
>> stacking registers) and I still don't like Kool-Aid regardless of
>> flavor.  ;-)
>> 
>> 73 de N1LQ-Dave
> 
> 
> -- 
> 73,
> Vic, K2VCO
> Fresno CA
> http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
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