On Sun, 30 Dec 2012, Viesturs L?cis wrote:

> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 20:27:51 +0200
> From: "[UTF-8] Viesturs L?cis" <viesturs.la...@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>     <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Pid saturated, was: Servo error
> 
> 2012/12/30 Peter C. Wallace <p...@mesanet.com>:
>>
>> You may be in current limit above ~.4 so more voltage does not make a
>> difference
>>
>
> Yes, You are right, it did turn on the error led somewhere around 0.6.
> Although I do not really understand that - I just retried n mode and
> frequency/value combinations to get up to 3000 RPM. Gradually
> increasing both of these pins allowed for value = 0.89, frequency =
> 200 and error led did not turn on (and did not even try to). I tried
> to add some resistance by grabbing the pinion, but the motor was
> stronger.

This still indicates something is really wrong with commutation...


>
>>
>> Can you try changing the lead angle? default is 90 degrees which should
>> always be right but it does sound like theres a a lot of current going into
>> the motor thats not generating torque which might indicate a problem here
>>
>> (change in ~10 degree steps around 90)
>>
>
> Stepping down did decrease the speed, stepping up did improve it.
> Currently I have ended up with lead-angle = 150, because with 160 it
> was even faster in one direction, but refused to turn in opposite
> direction, so this is last value, when motor turned in both directions
> and was faster than any other value before that.
>
> Thank You, this has improved velocity, before drive reaches current
> limit. Motor spins somewhere around 1470 RPM. I think I can live with
> that - machine would move approximately at 7 m/min, which is not fast
> for plasma table, but that will cover the thickness range they need to
> cut (from 2 mm to 30 mm, vast majority between 10 - 20 mm thick) and
> fortunately I do not have any commitments regarding max velocity.



>
>
> Any ideas, why does pid output get saturated as soon as I try to jog
> the motor? I just retried and it is still the same.

Too high acceleration?

>
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> Viesturs
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