On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 11:47:32 -0500 Youness Alaoui > <kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net> said: > >> Reminds me of some of the stuff I've been saying... >> As for "don't have time to do tarballs everyday".. well, that's why there's >> something called "scripts" and "cron jobs".. those things exist, might be >> good to use these awesome technologies. > > hooray for your snide comments. wonderful attitude. you were not there on irc, > nor did you even seem to have read the material at hand (the patches). > seriously, what's up with you? > > do i suddenly have to be mr. nice to everything? "oh wow! how wonderful! so > awesome that you broke evas's api on your openbsd packages. so great to see. > we'll love hearing the app developers ask us for help about their apps not > working on openbsd, when we will have zero clue that it was an api/abi > breakage > added specifically on openbsd. that's just awesome. please - make more patches > just like that!". > > if its bad, it's bad. reasons were explicitly given for it being bad.
I accept without problem the critisism on these diff (note and look at the commit these are not from me). But that is my personnal git, and it contains experimental diff and these will never go in tree if they are not ok. I never asked a review of these ... But yeah once again you're right, all this work is shit on shit and the OpenBSD team is only capable of breaking your stuff. > > and as for "well just use scripts" - have to write and test those too. and if > its just a cron job... then its NO BETTER THAN A RANDOM SVN CHECKOUT. that was > my point... which you failed to read. if you don't sit down and spend at least > some qa time on the tarballs... then its pointless. this is my point on a > mental block. i keep hearing it from people "omg !!!! svn trunk must be so > unstable!!! how can i use it?" - it's the image that just because its in trunk > (or head/master/whatever) that it must be so unstable and a tarball made every > day is going to be better. it's a RELEASE process of freezing and fixing just > bugs that improves quality... not "make dist; scp *.tar.gz ...". > >> > > if they require tarballs to >> > >> test and can't just run svn instead to fetch the source... i don't have >> > the >> > >> time each day to make tarballs when they can just as easily fetch from >> > svn. >> > >> it's the same work on their part. making tarballs is MORE work on our >> > part. >> > > >> > > You missed the point, we want to be sure that the final archive will be >> > ok. >> > > I'm not asking for snapshot on a daily basis, only some rc before the >> > > final archive. >> > > (Wait no project did alpha & rc, right ?) >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> > >>> Note that i discuss also with a Mageia e17 maintainer, and he told me >> > that >> > >>> such snapshots will help him too. >> > >> >> > >> a snapshot has no more quality than an svn checkout, so other than a >> > mental >> > >> block thinking svn == totally unstable/unusable and an unwillingness to >> > use it >> > >> because of a mental block, i don't see the point. >> > > >> > > yeah a mental block, I think you don't want to know how many time I >> > > have to reroll a dist to get all working and how frustating it is. >> > > >> > >> >> > >> a release that has had quality assurance done on it is a different >> > matter - but >> > >> we arent doing them every day. hell no - not with al the efl trees we >> > have. >> > >> only chance of that is if we stopped having separate libs and just >> > merged them >> > >> into a single efl tree. >> > >> >> > >>> Vincent >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >>> RSA(R) Conference 2012 >> > >>> Save $700 by Nov 18 >> > >>> Register now >> > >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 >> > >>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>> enlightenment-devel mailing list >> > >>> enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> > >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel >> > >>> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> -- >> > >> ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- >> > >> The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> RSA(R) Conference 2012 >> > >> Save $700 by Nov 18 >> > >> Register now >> > >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> enlightenment-devel mailing list >> > >> enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > > RSA(R) Conference 2012 >> > > Save $700 by Nov 18 >> > > Register now >> > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > enlightenment-devel mailing list >> > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Bruno Dilly >> > Senior Developer >> > ProFUSION embedded systems >> > http://profusion.mobi >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > RSA(R) Conference 2012 >> > Save $700 by Nov 18 >> > Register now >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 >> > _______________________________________________ >> > enlightenment-devel mailing list >> > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> RSA(R) Conference 2012 >> Save $700 by Nov 18 >> Register now >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 >> _______________________________________________ >> enlightenment-devel mailing list >> enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel >> > > > -- > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - 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