On 12/10/2013 08:19 AM, Stefan Schmidt wrote:
> Hello.
>
> On Tue, 2013-12-10 at 14:32, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
>> On Mon, 9 Dec 2013 20:23:39 -0500 Michael Blumenkrantz
>> <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> said:
>>
>>> On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 09:34:57 +0900
>>> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 9 Dec 2013 19:02:50 -0500 Michael Blumenkrantz
>>>> <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> said:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 08:51:50 +0900
>>>>> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 9 Dec 2013 14:37:58 +0100 Stefan Schmidt
>>>>>> <ste...@datenfreihafen.org> said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 14:28, Stefan Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hello.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 07:11, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure this is the case - just like Simon alpha4 builds fine
>>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>> Really strange. I reviewd the commits that gone into rc1 and efl
>>>>>>>> 1.8.2 but I can't see anything that broke this. Also its building
>>>>>>>> fine for me and on jenkins.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> At any rate I guess I'll try just disabling physics then.
>>>>>>>> Please do. The physics module was not really maintained and Mike
>>>>>>>> just removed it so it will be gone in the next rc and the final
>>>>>>>> release anyway.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Having it disabled manually for the rc1 should be ok for the people
>>>>>>>> encountering this problem. Does that sound good for you guys?
>>>>>>> To avoid any more confusion on this Mike and I decided that I will
>>>>>>> prepare a new rc1 tarball with the removal commit and upload it. Will
>>>>>>> send a mail once its up.
>>>>>> how about.. rc2? :)
>>>>> I don't want to drag this process out unnecessarily.
>>>> there are still bugs being filed on phab... and i was more making the point
>>>> that re-spinning a tarball with the same name/version is not a good thing.
>>>> "which rc1 do you have?" "i don't know. rc1!". :) if there is a re-spin.. 
>>>> at
>>>> least call it rc2... :) i could have done a "re spin" for 1.8.1 (another
>>>> 1.8.0) as no code changed - it was a m4 macro doing the totally unexpected.
>>>> but i had to do 1.8.1 :(
>>>>
>>> there was no "re spin" as you call it. the tarballs sent to the list were
>>> PREVIEW tarballs, and it was explicitly stated that they may or may not have
>>> been the final release tarballs for those versions. you absolutely could not
>>> have done the same thing, as you did not send your prepared tarballs to any
>>> lists prior to doing the release.
>> so i downloaded rc1. is mine fixed? :) you didn't answer that. how do i know 
>> if
>> its the respin or not before i download it?
>>
>> even for rc's if there is a re-generate at sall it should get a new name for
>> the archive. rc2, rc3, rc4 etc. imho
> It is clear what you mean. The problem is that we want to publish
> tarballs _before_ we make them final. Even for rc or alphas.
>
> I agree that the way I updated the tarball was a bit problematic. I
> see two ways out of this. a) a staging area where we upload tarballs
> for testing and only move them over to the final destination once we
> call them final or b) do as you suggest and increment the number
> every time the tarball changes but keep it on the correct location.
>
> The later could also cause confusion when you have to bump the number
> in to short time to allow more testing. Like you fixed one problem,
> re-upload with higher number and do it again shortly afterwards for
> another bug. You wanted to release 1.8.1 but end up with 1.8.3 within
> a day before the actual announcement. We could do rc's for stable
> updates as well.
>
> None of the solutions is really convenient. Need to ponder this.
>

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