Hello.

On Tue, 2013-12-10 at 09:10, Sebastian Dransfeld wrote:
> 
> On 12/10/2013 08:19 AM, Stefan Schmidt wrote:
> > Hello.
> >
> > On Tue, 2013-12-10 at 14:32, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> >> On Mon, 9 Dec 2013 20:23:39 -0500 Michael Blumenkrantz
> >> <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> said:
> >>
> >>> On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 09:34:57 +0900
> >>> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Mon, 9 Dec 2013 19:02:50 -0500 Michael Blumenkrantz
> >>>> <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> said:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 08:51:50 +0900
> >>>>> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, 9 Dec 2013 14:37:58 +0100 Stefan Schmidt
> >>>>>> <ste...@datenfreihafen.org> said:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hello.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 14:28, Stefan Schmidt wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Hello.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 07:11, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> I'm not sure this is the case - just like Simon alpha4 builds fine
> >>>>>>>>> here.
> >>>>>>>> Really strange. I reviewd the commits that gone into rc1 and efl
> >>>>>>>> 1.8.2 but I can't see anything that broke this. Also its building
> >>>>>>>> fine for me and on jenkins.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> At any rate I guess I'll try just disabling physics then.
> >>>>>>>> Please do. The physics module was not really maintained and Mike
> >>>>>>>> just removed it so it will be gone in the next rc and the final
> >>>>>>>> release anyway.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Having it disabled manually for the rc1 should be ok for the people
> >>>>>>>> encountering this problem. Does that sound good for you guys?
> >>>>>>> To avoid any more confusion on this Mike and I decided that I will
> >>>>>>> prepare a new rc1 tarball with the removal commit and upload it. Will
> >>>>>>> send a mail once its up.
> >>>>>> how about.. rc2? :)
> >>>>> I don't want to drag this process out unnecessarily.
> >>>> there are still bugs being filed on phab... and i was more making the 
> >>>> point
> >>>> that re-spinning a tarball with the same name/version is not a good 
> >>>> thing.
> >>>> "which rc1 do you have?" "i don't know. rc1!". :) if there is a 
> >>>> re-spin.. at
> >>>> least call it rc2... :) i could have done a "re spin" for 1.8.1 (another
> >>>> 1.8.0) as no code changed - it was a m4 macro doing the totally 
> >>>> unexpected.
> >>>> but i had to do 1.8.1 :(
> >>>>
> >>> there was no "re spin" as you call it. the tarballs sent to the list were
> >>> PREVIEW tarballs, and it was explicitly stated that they may or may not 
> >>> have
> >>> been the final release tarballs for those versions. you absolutely could 
> >>> not
> >>> have done the same thing, as you did not send your prepared tarballs to 
> >>> any
> >>> lists prior to doing the release.
> >> so i downloaded rc1. is mine fixed? :) you didn't answer that. how do i 
> >> know if
> >> its the respin or not before i download it?
> >>
> >> even for rc's if there is a re-generate at sall it should get a new name 
> >> for
> >> the archive. rc2, rc3, rc4 etc. imho
> > It is clear what you mean. The problem is that we want to publish
> > tarballs _before_ we make them final. Even for rc or alphas.
> >
> > I agree that the way I updated the tarball was a bit problematic. I
> > see two ways out of this. a) a staging area where we upload tarballs
> > for testing and only move them over to the final destination once we
> > call them final or b) do as you suggest and increment the number
> > every time the tarball changes but keep it on the correct location.
> >
> > The later could also cause confusion when you have to bump the number
> > in to short time to allow more testing. Like you fixed one problem,
> > re-upload with higher number and do it again shortly afterwards for
> > another bug. You wanted to release 1.8.1 but end up with 1.8.3 within
> > a day before the actual announcement. We could do rc's for stable
> > updates as well.
> >
> > None of the solutions is really convenient. Need to ponder this.
> >
> 
> checksum file

You mean we miss them in general from our releases or that it could be
used as a solution to this?

regards
Stefan Schmidt

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