Why don't you wish ''even'' to try?
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 1:01 PM, awori achoka <awori.ach...@gmail.com>wrote: > LOL---I wouldn't even try. > > The nature of events in nature always amaze me. Who determines the > causality of events in the universe? I wouldn't mind the crushing of stars > and the formation of all manner of objects--but then, you bring in humans > (conscious) and the whole story changes. > > > ** > *Committed to strategic visioning and the state of our nationhood. > * > ** > > > On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 6:46 AM, sadovnik socratus > <is.socra...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Take your time. >> = >> >> On May 14, 11:00 pm, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> > sure.... give me five years to try to understand Faster than Light.... >> OK? >> > >> > >> > >> > On Monday, May 13, 2013 11:43:41 AM UTC-4, sadovnik socratus wrote: >> > >> > > More details >> > > ===. >> > >> > > The basis of SRT ( by an uneducated Socratus) >> > >> > > ===. >> > >> > > SRT is based on four facts. >> > >> > > Fact number 1: >> > >> > > The constant speed of photon in vacuum is minimal. >> > >> > > ( from vacuum's point of view and tachyon theory ) >> > >> > > Fact number 2: >> > >> > > The inertia of photon depends on its potential energy: E=Mc^2 >> > >> > > In 1905 Einstein asked: >> > >> > > “ Does the inertia of a body depend upon its energy content ?” >> > >> > > As he realized the answer was: >> > >> > > “ Yes, it depends on E= Mc^2 ” >> > >> > > It means that inertia of quantum particle (photon, electron ) >> > >> > > depends on E= Mc^2 ( nobody explains the details of such >> > >> > > possibility of inertia movement. How can E=Mc^2 >> > >> > > be responsible for inertial movement of quantum particle ? ) >> > >> > > Someone wrote to me: >> > >> > > “An old professor of mine used to say >> > >> > > that anyone who can answer that question >> > >> > > what inertia is, would win a Nobel Prize. “ >> > >> > > Fact number 3: >> > >> > > Every speed and energy >> > >> > > ( including the speed and energy of photon ) are relative. >> > >> > > Speed, energy, impulse . . . . etc they are physical parameters >> > >> > > which belong to one, single quantum particle. >> > >> > > If you change one parameter all others will change automatically too. >> > >> > > For example : >> > >> > > In 1916 Sommerfeld found the formula of electron : e^2=ah*c. >> > >> > > If you change one electron's parameter all others parameters >> > >> > > also will be changed and the electron's energy will change too. >> > >> > > Take, for example, electron in atom. >> > >> > > Electron tied with atom by the energy: E=-me^4/2h*^2= -13,6eV. >> > >> > > But if someone parameter changes, then electron jumps out from atom >> > >> > > with energy E=h*f ( it is said: electron emits quantum of light, >> > >> > > but where this quantum of light is hidden in the electron, in which >> pocket >> > > ?) >> > >> > > In vacuum the energy of electron is E=Mc^2 (according to SRT and >> Dirac), >> > >> > > but when someone parameter is changed then electron jumps out from >> > >> > > vacuum with energy E=h*f. ( effect of vacuum fluctuation ). >> > >> > > Fact number 4: >> > >> > > The Lorentz equations explain the transformations (revolving >> movement) >> > >> > > of quantum particles using the Goudsmit – Uhlenbeck inner impulse >> > >> > > of particle: h* = h/ 2pi. >> > >> > > ===. >> > >> > > All the best. >> > >> > > Israel Sadovnik Socratus >> > >> > > =====… >> > >> > > P.S. >> > >> > > " Einstein's special theory of relativity is based on two postulates: >> > >> > > One is the relativity of motion, and the second is the constancy >> > >> > > and universality of the speed of light. >> > >> > > Could the first postulate be true and the other false? >> > >> > > If that was not possible, Einstein would not have had to make two >> > >> > > postulates. But I don't think many people realized until recently >> > >> > > that you could have a consistent theory in which you changed only >> > >> > > the second postulate." >> > >> > > / Lee Smolin, The Trouble With Physics, p. 226. / >> > >> > > # >> > >> > > Question: >> > >> > > Can quantum of light change its constant speed ? >> > >> > > Answer: Faster-than-light. >> > >> > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faster-than-light >> > >> > > etc . . . >> > >> > > ===… >> > >> > > On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 6:05 PM, nominal9 <nomi...@yahoo.com<javascript:> >> > > > wrote: >> > >> > >> So... Socratus and Awori..... I guess I should ask the question >> > >> differently.... do photons have "mass"? >> > >>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon >> > >> Experimental checks on photon mass >> > >> > >> The photon is currently understood to be strictly massless, but this >> is >> > >> an experimental question. If the photon is not a strictly massless >> > >> particle, it would not move at the exact speed of light in vacuum, >> *c*. >> > >> Its speed would be lower and depend on its frequency. Relativity >> would be >> > >> unaffected by this; the so-called speed of light, *c*, would then >> not be >> > >> the actual speed at which light moves, but a constant of nature >> which is >> > >> the maximum speed that any object could theoretically attain in >> space-time. >> > >> [21] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon#cite_note-23> Thus, it >> would >> > >> still be the speed of space-time ripples (gravitational waves< >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_waves>and >> > >> gravitons <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graviton>), but it would >> not be >> > >> the speed of photons. >> > >> > >> A massive photon would have other effects as well. Coulomb's law< >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coulomb%27s_law>would be modified and the >> electromagnetic field would have an extra >> > >> physical degree of freedom. These effects yield more sensitive >> experimental >> > >> probes of the photon mass than the frequency dependence of the speed >> of >> > >> light. If Coulomb's law is not exactly valid, then that would cause >> the >> > >> presence of an electric field< >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_field>inside a hollow conductor >> when it is subjected to an external electric >> > >> field. This thus allows one to test< >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tests_of_electromagnetism>Coulomb's law to >> very high precision. >> > >> [22] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon#cite_note-24> A null >> result >> > >> of such an experiment has set a limit of *m* ≲ 10−14 eV/c2.[23]< >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon#cite_note-25> >> > >> > >> Sharper upper limits have been obtained in experiments designed to >> detect >> > >> effects caused by the galactic vector potential< >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_potential>. >> > >> Although the galactic vector potential is very large because the >> galactic magnetic >> > >> field <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_field> exists on very >> long >> > >> length scales, only the magnetic field is observable if the photon is >> > >> massless. In case of a massive photon, the mass term [image: >> > >> \scriptstyle\frac{1}{2} m^2 A_{\mu}A^{\mu}] would affect the galactic >> > >> plasma. The fact that no such effects are seen implies an upper >> bound on >> > >> the photon mass of *m* < 3×10−27 eV/c2.[24]< >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon#cite_note-26>The galactic vector >> potential can also be probed directly by measuring the >> > >> torque exerted on a magnetized ring.[25]< >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon#cite_note-27>Such methods were used >> to obtain the sharper upper limit of 10 >> > >> −18eV/c2 (the equivalent of 1.07×10−27 atomic mass units) given by >> the >> > >> Particle Data Group.[26]< >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon#cite_note-amsler-28> >> > >> > >> These sharp limits from the non-observation of the effects caused by >> the >> > >> galactic vector potential have been shown to be model dependent.[27]< >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon#cite_note-29>If the photon mass is >> generated via the Higgs >> > >> mechanism <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_mechanism> then the >> upper >> > >> limit of *m*≲10−14 eV/c2 from the test of Coulomb's law is valid. >> > >> > >> Photons inside superconductors< >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconductors>do develop a nonzero >> effective >> > >> rest mass< >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effective_mass_%28solid-state_physics%29>; >> > >> as a result, electromagnetic forces become short-range inside >> > >> superconductors.[28] < >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon#cite_note-30> >> > >> See also: Supernova/Acceleration Probe< >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernova/Acceleration_Probe> >> > >> > >> On Saturday, May 11, 2013 1:31:48 PM UTC-4, sadovnik socratus wrote: >> > >> > >>> photon is an energy/mass particle: E=Mc^2 >> > >> > >>> this energy/mass ( E=Mc^2 ) is not constant parameter >> > >> > >>> this energy/mass ( E=Mc^2 ) can be changed ( together with speed ) >> > >> > >>> for example: E=Mc^2 changes into E=h*f and vice versa >> > >>> == >> > >> > >>> On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 4:53 PM, nominal9 <nomi...@yahoo.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > >>>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Photon< >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon> >> > >>>> Do you agree with this? >> > >>>> so, is a photon energy or particle..... when, if both?...... >> > >> > >>>> On Saturday, May 11, 2013 7:03:26 AM UTC-4, sadovnik socratus >> wrote: >> > >> > >>>>> SRT by an uneducated Socratus. >> > >>>>> =. >> > >>>>> SRT is based on three facts ! >> > >>>>> Fact number 1: >> > >>>>> The constant speed of photon in vacuum is minimal. >> > >>>>> Fact number 2: >> > >>>>> The inertia of photon depends on its potential energy: E=Mc^2 >> > >>>>> Fact number 3: >> > >>>>> Every speed and energy >> > >>>>> ( including the speed and energy of photon ) are relative. >> > >>>>> ===. >> > >>>>> Israel Socratus >> > >> > >>>>> -- >> > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > >>>> Groups "Epistemology" group. >> > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> send >> > >>>> an email to epistemology...@**googlegroups.com. >> > >>>> To post to this group, send email to episte...@googlegroups.com. >> > >>>> Visit this group athttp:// >> groups.google.com/**group/epistemology?hl=en< >> http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en> >> > >>>> . >> > >>>> For more options, visithttps://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out< >> https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> >> > >>>> . >> > >> > >>> -- >> > >>> You do not really understand something unless you can explain >> > >>> it to your grandmother. / Albert Einstein / >> > >>> The secret of God and Existence is hidden in ‘Quantum of Light >> Theory ’. >> > >> > >> -- >> > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> > >> "Epistemology" group. >> > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> send an >> > >> email to epistemology...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >> > >> To post to this group, send email to episte...@googlegroups.com >> <javascript:> >> > >> . >> > >> Visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en >> . >> > >> For more options, visithttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > >> > > -- >> > > You do not really understand something unless you can explain... >> > >> > read more » >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Epistemology" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to epistemology+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to epistemology@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Epistemology" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to epistemology+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to epistemology@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to your grandmother. / Albert Einstein / The secret of God and Existence is hidden in ‘Quantum of Light Theory ’. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Epistemology" group. 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