Who created the material Universe? About 96% of the matter in the whole Universe is unseen dark matter/energy. Nobody knows what it is. And only about 4% is physical /classical matter. It is possible to suggest that from 96% of unseen dark matter/energy was created the 4% of the known matter. It is possible to suggest that this unseen dark matter/energy consist on virtual particles (according to Dirac) and they can become (in some way, for example - through vacuum fluctuation) real particles (for example: photons and electrons|). And these real particles created the visual matter universe. =. What you can say about this subject? ==.
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 12:37 PM, awori achoka <awori.ach...@gmail.com>wrote: > The idea of a universe that orders and organises itself--wears me down. > So, i wouldn't even try. > > > ** > *Committed to strategic visioning and the state of our nationhood. > * > ** > > > On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 6:48 PM, i.sadovnik socratus < > is.socra...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Why don't you wish ''even'' to try? >> >> >> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 1:01 PM, awori achoka <awori.ach...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> LOL---I wouldn't even try. >>> >>> The nature of events in nature always amaze me. Who determines the >>> causality of events in the universe? I wouldn't mind the crushing of stars >>> and the formation of all manner of objects--but then, you bring in humans >>> (conscious) and the whole story changes. >>> >>> >>> ** >>> *Committed to strategic visioning and the state of our nationhood. >>> * >>> ** >>> >>> >>> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 6:46 AM, sadovnik socratus < >>> is.socra...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Take your time. >>>> = >>>> >>>> On May 14, 11:00 pm, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> > sure.... give me five years to try to understand Faster than >>>> Light.... OK? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Monday, May 13, 2013 11:43:41 AM UTC-4, sadovnik socratus wrote: >>>> > >>>> > > More details >>>> > > ===. >>>> > >>>> > > The basis of SRT ( by an uneducated Socratus) >>>> > >>>> > > ===. >>>> > >>>> > > SRT is based on four facts. >>>> > >>>> > > Fact number 1: >>>> > >>>> > > The constant speed of photon in vacuum is minimal. >>>> > >>>> > > ( from vacuum's point of view and tachyon theory ) >>>> > >>>> > > Fact number 2: >>>> > >>>> > > The inertia of photon depends on its potential energy: E=Mc^2 >>>> > >>>> > > In 1905 Einstein asked: >>>> > >>>> > > “ Does the inertia of a body depend upon its energy content ?” >>>> > >>>> > > As he realized the answer was: >>>> > >>>> > > “ Yes, it depends on E= Mc^2 ” >>>> > >>>> > > It means that inertia of quantum particle (photon, electron ) >>>> > >>>> > > depends on E= Mc^2 ( nobody explains the details of such >>>> > >>>> > > possibility of inertia movement. How can E=Mc^2 >>>> > >>>> > > be responsible for inertial movement of quantum particle ? ) >>>> > >>>> > > Someone wrote to me: >>>> > >>>> > > “An old professor of mine used to say >>>> > >>>> > > that anyone who can answer that question >>>> > >>>> > > what inertia is, would win a Nobel Prize. “ >>>> > >>>> > > Fact number 3: >>>> > >>>> > > Every speed and energy >>>> > >>>> > > ( including the speed and energy of photon ) are relative. >>>> > >>>> > > Speed, energy, impulse . . . . etc they are physical parameters >>>> > >>>> > > which belong to one, single quantum particle. >>>> > >>>> > > If you change one parameter all others will change automatically >>>> too. >>>> > >>>> > > For example : >>>> > >>>> > > In 1916 Sommerfeld found the formula of electron : e^2=ah*c. >>>> > >>>> > > If you change one electron's parameter all others parameters >>>> > >>>> > > also will be changed and the electron's energy will change too. >>>> > >>>> > > Take, for example, electron in atom. >>>> > >>>> > > Electron tied with atom by the energy: E=-me^4/2h*^2= -13,6eV. >>>> > >>>> > > But if someone parameter changes, then electron jumps out from atom >>>> > >>>> > > with energy E=h*f ( it is said: electron emits quantum of light, >>>> > >>>> > > but where this quantum of light is hidden in the electron, in which >>>> pocket >>>> > > ?) >>>> > >>>> > > In vacuum the energy of electron is E=Mc^2 (according to SRT and >>>> Dirac), >>>> > >>>> > > but when someone parameter is changed then electron jumps out from >>>> > >>>> > > vacuum with energy E=h*f. ( effect of vacuum fluctuation ). >>>> > >>>> > > Fact number 4: >>>> > >>>> > > The Lorentz equations explain the transformations (revolving >>>> movement) >>>> > >>>> > > of quantum particles using the Goudsmit – Uhlenbeck inner >>>> impulse >>>> > >>>> > > of particle: h* = h/ 2pi. >>>> > >>>> > > ===. >>>> > >>>> > > All the best. >>>> > >>>> > > Israel Sadovnik Socratus >>>> > >>>> > > =====… >>>> > >>>> > > P.S. >>>> > >>>> > > " Einstein's special theory of relativity is based on two >>>> postulates: >>>> > >>>> > > One is the relativity of motion, and the second is the constancy >>>> > >>>> > > and universality of the speed of light. >>>> > >>>> > > Could the first postulate be true and the other false? >>>> > >>>> > > If that was not possible, Einstein would not have had to make two >>>> > >>>> > > postulates. But I don't think many people realized until recently >>>> > >>>> > > that you could have a consistent theory in which you changed only >>>> > >>>> > > the second postulate." >>>> > >>>> > > / Lee Smolin, The Trouble With Physics, p. 226. / >>>> > >>>> > > # >>>> > >>>> > > Question: >>>> > >>>> > > Can quantum of light change its constant speed ? >>>> > >>>> > > Answer: Faster-than-light. >>>> > >>>> > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faster-than-light >>>> > >>>> > > etc . . . >>>> > >>>> > > ===… >>>> > >>>> > > On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 6:05 PM, nominal9 >>>> > > <nomi...@yahoo.com<javascript:> >>>> > > > wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >> So... Socratus and Awori..... I guess I should ask the question >>>> > >> differently.... do photons have "mass"? >>>> > >>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon >>>> > >> Experimental checks on photon mass >>>> > >>>> > >> The photon is currently understood to be strictly massless, but >>>> this is >>>> > >> an experimental question. If the photon is not a strictly massless >>>> > >> particle, it would not move at the exact speed of light in vacuum, >>>> *c*. >>>> > >> Its speed would be lower and depend on its frequency. Relativity >>>> would be >>>> > >> unaffected by this; the so-called speed of light, *c*, would then >>>> not be >>>> > >> the actual speed at which light moves, but a constant of nature >>>> which is >>>> > >> the maximum speed that any object could theoretically attain in >>>> space-time. >>>> > >> [21] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon#cite_note-23> Thus, it >>>> would >>>> > >> still be the speed of space-time ripples (gravitational waves< >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_waves>and >>>> > >> gravitons <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graviton>), but it would >>>> not be >>>> > >> the speed of photons. >>>> > >>>> > >> A massive photon would have other effects as well. Coulomb's law< >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coulomb%27s_law>would be modified and >>>> the electromagnetic field would have an extra >>>> > >> physical degree of freedom. These effects yield more sensitive >>>> experimental >>>> > >> probes of the photon mass than the frequency dependence of the >>>> speed of >>>> > >> light. If Coulomb's law is not exactly valid, then that would >>>> cause the >>>> > >> presence of an electric field< >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_field>inside a hollow conductor >>>> when it is subjected to an external electric >>>> > >> field. This thus allows one to test< >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tests_of_electromagnetism>Coulomb's law >>>> to very high precision. >>>> > >> [22] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon#cite_note-24> A null >>>> result >>>> > >> of such an experiment has set a limit of *m* ≲ 10−14 eV/c2.[23]< >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon#cite_note-25> >>>> > >>>> > >> Sharper upper limits have been obtained in experiments designed to >>>> detect >>>> > >> effects caused by the galactic vector potential< >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_potential>. >>>> > >> Although the galactic vector potential is very large because the >>>> galactic magnetic >>>> > >> field <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_field> exists on >>>> very long >>>> > >> length scales, only the magnetic field is observable if the photon >>>> is >>>> > >> massless. In case of a massive photon, the mass term [image: >>>> > >> \scriptstyle\frac{1}{2} m^2 A_{\mu}A^{\mu}] would affect the >>>> galactic >>>> > >> plasma. The fact that no such effects are seen implies an upper >>>> bound on >>>> > >> the photon mass of *m* < 3×10−27 eV/c2.[24]< >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon#cite_note-26>The galactic vector >>>> potential can also be probed directly by measuring the >>>> > >> torque exerted on a magnetized ring.[25]< >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon#cite_note-27>Such methods were >>>> used to obtain the sharper upper limit of 10 >>>> > >> −18eV/c2 (the equivalent of 1.07×10−27 atomic mass units) given by >>>> the >>>> > >> Particle Data Group.[26]< >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon#cite_note-amsler-28> >>>> > >>>> > >> These sharp limits from the non-observation of the effects caused >>>> by the >>>> > >> galactic vector potential have been shown to be model >>>> dependent.[27]<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon#cite_note-29>If >>>> the photon mass is generated via the Higgs >>>> > >> mechanism <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_mechanism> then >>>> the upper >>>> > >> limit of *m*≲10−14 eV/c2 from the test of Coulomb's law is valid. >>>> > >>>> > >> Photons inside superconductors< >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconductors>do develop a nonzero >>>> effective >>>> > >> rest mass< >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effective_mass_%28solid-state_physics%29 >>>> >; >>>> > >> as a result, electromagnetic forces become short-range inside >>>> > >> superconductors.[28] < >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon#cite_note-30> >>>> > >> See also: Supernova/Acceleration Probe< >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernova/Acceleration_Probe> >>>> > >>>> > >> On Saturday, May 11, 2013 1:31:48 PM UTC-4, sadovnik socratus >>>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >>> photon is an energy/mass particle: E=Mc^2 >>>> > >>>> > >>> this energy/mass ( E=Mc^2 ) is not constant parameter >>>> > >>>> > >>> this energy/mass ( E=Mc^2 ) can be changed ( together with speed ) >>>> > >>>> > >>> for example: E=Mc^2 changes into E=h*f and vice versa >>>> > >>> == >>>> > >>>> > >>> On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 4:53 PM, nominal9 <nomi...@yahoo.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >>>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Photon< >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon> >>>> > >>>> Do you agree with this? >>>> > >>>> so, is a photon energy or particle..... when, if both?...... >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Saturday, May 11, 2013 7:03:26 AM UTC-4, sadovnik socratus >>>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> SRT by an uneducated Socratus. >>>> > >>>>> =. >>>> > >>>>> SRT is based on three facts ! >>>> > >>>>> Fact number 1: >>>> > >>>>> The constant speed of photon in vacuum is minimal. >>>> > >>>>> Fact number 2: >>>> > >>>>> The inertia of photon depends on its potential energy: E=Mc^2 >>>> > >>>>> Fact number 3: >>>> > >>>>> Every speed and energy >>>> > >>>>> ( including the speed and energy of photon ) are relative. >>>> > >>>>> ===. >>>> > >>>>> Israel Socratus >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> -- >>>> > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>> Google >>>> > >>>> Groups "Epistemology" group. >>>> > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>> it, send >>>> > >>>> an email to epistemology...@**googlegroups.com. >>>> > >>>> To post to this group, send email to episte...@googlegroups.com. >>>> > >>>> Visit this group athttp:// >>>> groups.google.com/**group/epistemology?hl=en< >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en> >>>> > >>>> . >>>> > >>>> For more options, visithttps:// >>>> groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out< >>>> https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> >>>> > >>>> . >>>> > >>>> > >>> -- >>>> > >>> You do not really understand something unless you can explain >>>> > >>> it to your grandmother. / Albert Einstein / >>>> > >>> The secret of God and Existence is hidden in ‘Quantum of Light >>>> Theory ’. >>>> > >>>> > >> -- >>>> > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> > >> "Epistemology" group. >>>> > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>> send an >>>> > >> email to epistemology...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >>>> > >> To post to this group, send email to episte...@googlegroups.com >>>> <javascript:> >>>> > >> . >>>> > >> Visit this group athttp:// >>>> groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en. >>>> > >> For more options, visithttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> > >>>> > > -- >>>> > > You do not really understand something unless you can explain... >>>> > >>>> > read more » >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Epistemology" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to epistemology+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to epistemology@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Epistemology" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to epistemology+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to epistemology@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> You do not really understand something unless you can explain >> it to your grandmother. / Albert Einstein / >> The secret of God and Existence is hidden in ‘Quantum of Light Theory ’. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Epistemology" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to epistemology+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to epistemology@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Epistemology" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to epistemology+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to epistemology@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to your grandmother. / Albert Einstein / The secret of God and Existence is hidden in ‘Quantum of Light Theory ’. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Epistemology" group. 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