--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "I've never authored a single thought. As if. Every thought comes from > where I know not of. Suddenly just there. Impossibly there, and so > spendable, so vital. Manna pure and simple, I pick this sustenance > up off the ground-state. We're all wandering Jews, eh?" > > Here you are being honest, you don't know where your thoughts come > from. This is human creativity at work and it is a wonder! > > > > That's God to me. An overwhelming giving of the earth to > inheriting,> meeky me. > > > > He's not dallying on some distant throne with harping minions > flitting> in the billows. > > > > He's here now -- in my face, my brain, my marrow. He's laughing > > inside my atoms using my electrons like whirligigs. <Snip> > > And here are you saying that you know that "God" is the source of your > thoughts? I dig the poetry of it all but as an ontological claim it > lacks uh, let's see...it lacks anything beyond a poetic notion. (not > that there is anything wrong with that) > > Here is where it matters. When people claim to "know" that it is > "God" who is feeding them thoughts. Perhaps we have a functioning > personal mind under our conscious mind that is busy cranking this > stuff out rather than a deity, what shall we call this part of our > mind...oh I know an unconscious mind! > > > Each speck in space, each plink, plank and plunk, each twang in the > > silence is God's sparking. > > > > I cannot find non-Godness. > > What you can't find is your perception without using this filter > overlay on your experience, interpreting everything this way. Want > some REAL silence? Try actually just experiencing your silence > without the belief overlay. > > Personally I think you are a creative human and I don't need an > explanation that your thoughts are a result of any God. It is not > that what your are writing isn't good, but I would expect a bit more > from the creator of the universe. >
Boy, there's been some beautiful writing about atheism on here today chaps, it moves me, it really does. So often all you hear is the fear so many religious people have that athiests are immoral or not to be trusted because we have no "faith". Nice to know there are others out there who feel like me and have really thought about where they are and what life means. I've spent my life reading books about Darwinism and to me the real majesty of creation is how it has got here from nothing. The world seems so much more precious and just plain REAL once you really get what is going on, and it takes some huge mental leaps, not to mention an exercise in severe humility, to understand Darwin. I think it's one of the most misunderstood theories. To blame god or intelligent design for creation just takes things away from it IMO. And doesn't actually answer how things got started, it just pushes the answer further away. It's impossible to prove that something doesn't exist of course, I've just never felt the need to complicate things with gods. Or is that just a belief? No way to know. Man is a strange creature, it's no wonder to me we feel special and in need of an explanation of why we are different. It's just amazing we got the particular few things we needed to be us, a descended larynx so we can form a big enough range of sounds to have speech and a brain capable of utilising that speech as abstract thought and viola! the rest is history (literally). How easy it would have been for that never to have happened, self-awareness must be the rarest thing in the entire universe. Just think, the earth is here for 4 billion years and it takes that long before the first creature gets the wake up gene, what are the chances of it? Pretty slim I'd say, and it humbles me to think we could be the only beings in creation that are aware they are alone. Another astonishing thing is our brains came pre-adapted with the ability to "transcend", amazing experiences guaranteed! With capabilities like that could the history of mans inner spiritual life ever have been different? As you can see I like my world without god, it's more precious to me like that. But it's so easy to start taking things for granted, so easy to forget the big picture, so easy to stop feeling small. Reading these pages today nudged me awake, gave me things to think about. So thanks for that, I hope I can return the favour someday.