Curtis,

What part of "Even the silence is given to me" didn't you understand?

What's being given is ALL THIS.  God does not stint.  Even the worst
person is an utterly clean canvas for His art, and He never paints
anything less than a masterpiece.  Right now, the "experience of being
you" is like, you know, hanging in a heavenly Louvre somewhere with
God standing before it almost blinded by the light of it.

If amongst all the gifts, there is a Plan with a big ribbon bow, a
Mind in a package that rattles when you shake it, a Destiny unfolding
inside thin wrappings, well, in this ocean of notions, it's
understandable if one doesn't have the insight to open those packages
first.  The incandescent dazzle of dead dog's teeth has us all like
toddlers on Christmas morning wading hip-deep in presents.  

Agoggitude-R-Us.

I don't say that I know God exists -- only that Whatever is pleasing
all of us so deeply -- so deeply that even evil desires are fulfilled
as proof that the charm of creation cannot be dented thereby --
whatever "He" or "It" or "That" is, I am completely immersed in Him,
It, That.  If He is sentience blazing, or if It is cold physics
grinding, I am in awe of the infinity of That.  No thought can go
beyond the fact of creation's utter particularity in populating the
universe with worlds -- or minds with thoughts.  Nothing is missing. 
Allness is there.

Where's not God?  Ask any scientist about subtlety.  Ask any monk
about the endlessness of expansion of self.  Ask any mother what is
seen in a child's eyes.  Ask Arjuna why he could not gaze at God's
true Face.

I'll tell ya, this Hiranyagarba ball may all be only a dollop in the
dark, but Indra would chop off his right arm to be It.

Good enough for a definition of God to me.

If somewhere beyond the cosmic boonies a Magnificence chuckles at my
"selling out small," so be it.  It is, after all, His thoughts, His
silence, His artistry that I am so.  

And, His that you are you.  

His entertainment to see my pong and your ping.

Your serve, Paddle Boy.

Edg




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "I've never authored a single thought. As if. Every thought comes from
> where I know not of. Suddenly just there. Impossibly there, and so
> spendable, so vital. Manna pure and simple, I pick this sustenance
> up off the ground-state. We're all wandering Jews, eh?"
> 
> Here you are being honest, you don't know where your thoughts come
> from.  This is human creativity at work and it is a wonder!
> 
> 
> > That's God to me.  An overwhelming giving of the earth to
> inheriting,> meeky me.
> > 
> > He's not dallying on some distant throne with harping minions
> flitting> in the billows.
> > 
> > He's here now -- in my face, my brain, my marrow.  He's laughing
> > inside my atoms using my electrons like whirligigs. <Snip>
> 
> And here are you saying that you know that "God" is the source of your
> thoughts?  I dig the poetry of it all but as an ontological claim it
> lacks uh, let's see...it lacks anything beyond a poetic notion. (not
> that there is anything wrong with that)  
> 
> Here is where it matters.  When people claim to "know" that it is
> "God" who is feeding them thoughts.  Perhaps we have a functioning
> personal mind under our conscious mind that is busy cranking this
> stuff out rather than a deity, what shall we call this part of our
> mind...oh I know an unconscious mind!
> 
> > Each speck in space, each plink, plank and plunk, each twang in the
> > silence is God's sparking.  
> > 
> > I cannot find non-Godness.
> 
> What you can't find is your perception without using this filter
> overlay on your experience, interpreting everything this way.  Want
> some REAL silence?  Try actually just experiencing your silence
> without the belief overlay. 
> 
> Personally I think you are a creative human and I don't need an
> explanation that your thoughts are a result of any God.  It is not
> that what your are writing isn't good, but I would expect a bit more
> from the creator of the universe. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > Here's how I experience God.  
> > 
> > A closing of the inner eye.  Then WHAM God speaks.
> > 
> > All thoughts present themselves to my silence and only my silence.  My
> > ego, merely another noise in the brain, is not the recipient, the
> > witness, the thinker, the blessed.  Only my silence can receive a
> > thought. 
> > 
> > Thoughts, each one of them, are found treasures -- and like a flurry
> > of cash wind borne along a street, I snatch 'em up even though I have
> > no pockets.  I want to hoard-gobble 'em like a hamster with ballooning
> > cheeks, but each is so delicious I swallow immediately.  To me, the
> > streaming of thoughts are like having a constant orgasm -- not even
> > time to take a breath.  What a lover God is to keep me brimming full
> > of ideation.  Who here can say otherwise?  Who can say, "I author my
> > thoughts."  Or, "I'm on the thought committee, and I know the next
> > thought that I'm scheduled to have." Or, "Each thought is ego approved
> > and marketed."
> > 
> > No one.  It's all I can do to just accept the ecstatic flowingness.  
> > 
> > I've never authored a single thought. As if.  Every thought comes from
> > where I know not of.  Suddenly just there.  Impossibly there, and so
> > spendable, so vital.  Manna pure and simple,  I pick this sustenance
> > up off the ground-state.  We're all wandering Jews, eh?
> > 
> > My soul seems to have won a thought lottery -- I'm rich.  I'm
> > experiencing a tsunami of thinking that just keeps coming into the now
> > and obviating any need for memory.  There's no such thing as the past
> > when nowness so envelops me.  I cannot escape the presence of God's
> mind.
> > 
> > In meditation, I've had a silence sandwich.  You know, a slice of
> > silence, meaty thought, a slice of silence, and ego for mayo.
> > 
> > And yum yum, yum yum, yum, two bits.  To savor one bite of that
> > sandwich can overwhelm the palate with pleasure.
> > 
> > Yet, most of my time is spent surfing a sea of thinking, noshing at a
> > banquet of notions, and smelling the scents from a million flowered
> > field.  
> > 
> > That's God to me.  An overwhelming giving of the earth to inheriting,
> > meeky me.
> > 
> > He's not dallying on some distant throne with harping minions flitting
> > in the billows.
> > 
> > He's here now -- in my face, my brain, my marrow.  He's laughing
> > inside my atoms using my electrons like whirligigs.
> > 
> > Each speck in space, each plink, plank and plunk, each twang in the
> > silence is God's sparking.  
> > 
> > I cannot find non-Godness.  
> > 
> > Only my silence is dark enough to make His least glimmer bright.
> > 
> > Only my silence is bright enough to make His least dot of dark POP!
> > 
> > And then, suddenly, I see.
> > 
> > It's not my silence at all.
> > 
> > Even the silence is given to me.
> > 
> > Edg
> >
>


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