--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_re...@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchydog@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > I tried. > > > > I'll meet you half way. Agree that the sexism directed > > at Hillary was an injustice that should never happen > > to another female candidate again and I will not infer > > that you are an emotional eunuch devoid of compassion > > who needs to get over it. > > *Should* it never happen again? Sure. > > Will it? Of course. > > *Should* race never have been an issue > with Obama? Sure. > > Was it? Of course. > > He was a strong enough candidate to > transcend race, and thus set the stage for > race not being an issue in a presidential > election ever again. > > Hillary was *not* a strong enough candidate > to transcend her gender, and thus she did > not do the same for women. >
What a bunch of ridiculous platitudes. Obama's win only proves a media interest in elevating the conversation about race relations and a successful mission to raise the consciousness of the electorate. Hillary's loss proves a dearth of media interest in elevating the conversation about sexism and failed miserably to raise the consciousness of the electorate about it. Ergo, racism trumps sexism in America. > All women who have entered politics have > had to face this. The ones who are in office > don't whine about the sexism they encountered > the way you are doing. Hell, the *losers* -- > often because of sexism -- don't whine about > it the way you are doing. > > Whining doesn't help. Getting so out of > control emotionally about the issue that > you don't even *realize* that you're > resorting to cheap emotional blackmail to > try to make your points doesn't help. > > Winning helps. When a woman candidate for > president comes along who is strong enough > to transcend gender the way that Obama > transcended race, *that* will help. And > I'll probably vote for her. > > Hillary was not that candidate. > > > > Really, I did. > > > > > > I tried talking to you as if you were sane, > > > but when you get like this you really aren't. > > > > > > You obviously either didn't read a word of > > > my posting about emotionally-manipulative > > > writing, or you don't realize that is what > > > you are doing. > > > > > > No one cut off your balls, Raunchy. > > > > > > No one raped you. > > > > > > Your preferred candidate in an election lost, > > > that's all. > > > > > > And you're trying to act as if that was *like* > > > having your balls cut off or being raped. > > > > > > That is being emotionally manipulative. It's > > > also being a child. > > > > > > I give up. I'll deal with you only during your > > > sane moments. > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchydog@> wrote: > > > > > > > > If someone cut off your balls, laughed at you about it, > > > > and said, "Oh we were just having some fun. Don't be such > > > > a wuss. It's so unmanly. Your tears and anger, just prove > > > > what we thought about you anyway. Weakling. Suck it up." > > > > Your lack of balls would be a constant reminder of the assault. > > > > > > > > Questions for a eunuch: > > > > > > > > Are you angry about it? > > > > Are you doing whatever you can to prevent it from happening > > > > to anyone ever again? > > > > Do you talk about it? > > > > Are you ashamed to talk about it? > > > > Other than other eunuchs, have you met anyone who understands > > > > how you feel? > > > > How do you feel when someone says, "I feel your pain?" > > > > How do you feel when someone says, "I will help you prevent > > > > this from happening to anyone ever again?" > > > > How do you feel when someone says, "Get over it?" > > > > > > > > Anyone who says to the eunuch, "Get over it" gives permission > > > > for future castrations. > > > > > > > > Jews talk about the Holocaust and say, "Never again." > > > > Native Americans talk about genocide and say, "Never again." > > > > Women talk about sexism directed at Hillary and say, "Never > > > > again." > > > > > > > > People who are so devoid of compassion that they close their > > > > hearts to injustice, are emotional eunuchs and need to get > > > > over it. > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 22, 2009, at 12:30 AM, raunchydog wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vaj: Why on earth would a successful meditator still have > > > > > > > lingering destructive emotions months after the original > > > > > > > stressor? ["He raped you, so what, get over it."] > > > > > > > > > > > > So experiencing Hillary loosing was like being RAPED? > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm sorry Raunch, but I do believe it's time for the > > > > > > therapists couch. > > > > > > > > > > For the record, this is *exactly* what I > > > > > was talking about in my "The *intent* of > > > > > overly-emotional writing" post this morning. > > > > > > > > > > Not only is the analogy Raunchy is trying > > > > > to make here inappropriate, is is *knowingly* > > > > > inappropriate, and used for its emotional- > > > > > manipulation characteristics. > > > > > > > > > > It is a lot like people who won´t let go of > > > > > what happened to Native Americans: "Don´t > > > > > you people *understand* what the white man > > > > > did to the Indians? <insert long list of > > > > > atrocities here> *I* feel bad about that, > > > > > so why don´t YOU? Is there something *wrong* > > > > > with you that you don´t feel as bad as I do?" > > > > > > > > > > On the one hand it´s the inappropriateness > > > > > of such emotionally-manipulative writing > > > > > that galls. The people saying this on the > > > > > forums I´ve heard it on are all lily-white > > > > > and have never even *been* to a Native > > > > > American reservation or Peublo. > > > > > > > > > > But on a more fundamental level it´s an > > > > > attempt at emotional blackmail. We are > > > > > supposed to feel *bad* for them because > > > > > Native Americans were crapped on. We´re > > > > > supposed to feel *bad* for Raunchy because > > > > > she feels that Hillary Clinton losing was > > > > > like her being raped. And on one level > > > > > the intent of that is that we´ll feel more > > > > > inclined to take her rants more seriously, > > > > > because she "feels them so deeply." > > > > > > > > > > But on another level, the real *intent* is > > > > > to make the reader feel *bad*, PERIOD. > > > > > > > > > > Raunchy feels like shit because Hillary lost. > > > > > And she wants us to feel like shit, too. > > > > > That´s the bottom line. > > > > > > > > > > I´m sorry, Raunch...I like you when you´re > > > > > not pulling this crap, but that is *exactly* > > > > > what your intent was by posting the above. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
