--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchy...@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > I tried. > > I'll meet you half way. Agree that the sexism directed > at Hillary was an injustice that should never happen > to another female candidate again and I will not infer > that you are an emotional eunuch devoid of compassion > who needs to get over it.
*Should* it never happen again? Sure. Will it? Of course. *Should* race never have been an issue with Obama? Sure. Was it? Of course. He was a strong enough candidate to transcend race, and thus set the stage for race not being an issue in a presidential election ever again. Hillary was *not* a strong enough candidate to transcend her gender, and thus she did not do the same for women. All women who have entered politics have had to face this. The ones who are in office don't whine about the sexism they encountered the way you are doing. Hell, the *losers* -- often because of sexism -- don't whine about it the way you are doing. Whining doesn't help. Getting so out of control emotionally about the issue that you don't even *realize* that you're resorting to cheap emotional blackmail to try to make your points doesn't help. Winning helps. When a woman candidate for president comes along who is strong enough to transcend gender the way that Obama transcended race, *that* will help. And I'll probably vote for her. Hillary was not that candidate. > > Really, I did. > > > > I tried talking to you as if you were sane, > > but when you get like this you really aren't. > > > > You obviously either didn't read a word of > > my posting about emotionally-manipulative > > writing, or you don't realize that is what > > you are doing. > > > > No one cut off your balls, Raunchy. > > > > No one raped you. > > > > Your preferred candidate in an election lost, > > that's all. > > > > And you're trying to act as if that was *like* > > having your balls cut off or being raped. > > > > That is being emotionally manipulative. It's > > also being a child. > > > > I give up. I'll deal with you only during your > > sane moments. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchydog@> wrote: > > > > > > If someone cut off your balls, laughed at you about it, > > > and said, "Oh we were just having some fun. Don't be such > > > a wuss. It's so unmanly. Your tears and anger, just prove > > > what we thought about you anyway. Weakling. Suck it up." > > > Your lack of balls would be a constant reminder of the assault. > > > > > > Questions for a eunuch: > > > > > > Are you angry about it? > > > Are you doing whatever you can to prevent it from happening > > > to anyone ever again? > > > Do you talk about it? > > > Are you ashamed to talk about it? > > > Other than other eunuchs, have you met anyone who understands > > > how you feel? > > > How do you feel when someone says, "I feel your pain?" > > > How do you feel when someone says, "I will help you prevent > > > this from happening to anyone ever again?" > > > How do you feel when someone says, "Get over it?" > > > > > > Anyone who says to the eunuch, "Get over it" gives permission > > > for future castrations. > > > > > > Jews talk about the Holocaust and say, "Never again." > > > Native Americans talk about genocide and say, "Never again." > > > Women talk about sexism directed at Hillary and say, "Never > > > again." > > > > > > People who are so devoid of compassion that they close their > > > hearts to injustice, are emotional eunuchs and need to get > > > over it. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 22, 2009, at 12:30 AM, raunchydog wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Vaj: Why on earth would a successful meditator still have > > > > > > lingering destructive emotions months after the original > > > > > > stressor? ["He raped you, so what, get over it."] > > > > > > > > > > So experiencing Hillary loosing was like being RAPED? > > > > > > > > > > I'm sorry Raunch, but I do believe it's time for the > > > > > therapists couch. > > > > > > > > For the record, this is *exactly* what I > > > > was talking about in my "The *intent* of > > > > overly-emotional writing" post this morning. > > > > > > > > Not only is the analogy Raunchy is trying > > > > to make here inappropriate, is is *knowingly* > > > > inappropriate, and used for its emotional- > > > > manipulation characteristics. > > > > > > > > It is a lot like people who won´t let go of > > > > what happened to Native Americans: "Don´t > > > > you people *understand* what the white man > > > > did to the Indians? <insert long list of > > > > atrocities here> *I* feel bad about that, > > > > so why don´t YOU? Is there something *wrong* > > > > with you that you don´t feel as bad as I do?" > > > > > > > > On the one hand it´s the inappropriateness > > > > of such emotionally-manipulative writing > > > > that galls. The people saying this on the > > > > forums I´ve heard it on are all lily-white > > > > and have never even *been* to a Native > > > > American reservation or Peublo. > > > > > > > > But on a more fundamental level it´s an > > > > attempt at emotional blackmail. We are > > > > supposed to feel *bad* for them because > > > > Native Americans were crapped on. We´re > > > > supposed to feel *bad* for Raunchy because > > > > she feels that Hillary Clinton losing was > > > > like her being raped. And on one level > > > > the intent of that is that we´ll feel more > > > > inclined to take her rants more seriously, > > > > because she "feels them so deeply." > > > > > > > > But on another level, the real *intent* is > > > > to make the reader feel *bad*, PERIOD. > > > > > > > > Raunchy feels like shit because Hillary lost. > > > > And she wants us to feel like shit, too. > > > > That´s the bottom line. > > > > > > > > I´m sorry, Raunch...I like you when you´re > > > > not pulling this crap, but that is *exactly* > > > > what your intent was by posting the above. > > > > > > > > > >
