--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchy...@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <rick@> wrote: > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] > > On Behalf Of raunchydog > > Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 2:36 AM > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sorry Judy > > > > Conventional wisdom says Obama was elected because he "transcended race." > > Hogwash. If it hadn't been for MLK and LBJ and LAWS that forbid > > discrimination, and segregation, and many years of government and media > > effort to improve race relations, Obama would never have had a chance at the > > presidency. > > > > If Hillary had had the same protections against discrimination for her sex > > as Obama had for his race, without a doubt Hillary would have been treated > > more respectfully. No one transcends race or gender without some help from > > the LAW. > > > > We have become so sensitive as a nation about race that everyone tippy-toed > > to protect Obamba's sensibilities during the primary lest they wear the > > shameful name of "racist." Obama used it to his advantage on several > > occasions and people were often falsely accused of racism if they didn't > > support Obama. Deplorable. http://tinyurl.com/2ve8jt > > > > Hillary had no such tippy-toeing around her. It was open season to attack > > her and the so called progressive Left and the complicit DNC didn't hold > > back firing as many cheap sexist shots as they could. > > > Can you give us a few examples of these cheap sexist shots? > > Yikes! Rick just fell of the turnip truck. Either he wasn't paying attention > or he would know a sexist attack on a woman if it bit him in the ass. In > Message #219508 I referenced this: > > Melissa McEwan at Shakesville's blogspot documented 89 instances of blatant > sexist attacks on Hillary during the primary. I'm glad someone was keeping > count, if only to serve as a reminder of the perils awaiting any woman brave > enough to attempt a presidential run. If we don't learn from history, we are > doomed to repeat it. > > http://tinyurl.com/p4q7tt > http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2008/05/hillary-sexism-watch-part-eighty.\ > html >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchy...@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <rick@> wrote: > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] > > On Behalf Of raunchydog > > Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 2:36 AM > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sorry Judy > > > > Conventional wisdom says Obama was elected because he "transcended race." > > Hogwash. If it hadn't been for MLK and LBJ and LAWS that forbid > > discrimination, and segregation, and many years of government and media > > effort to improve race relations, Obama would never have had a chance at the > > presidency. > > > > If Hillary had had the same protections against discrimination for her sex > > as Obama had for his race, without a doubt Hillary would have been treated > > more respectfully. No one transcends race or gender without some help from > > the LAW. > > > > We have become so sensitive as a nation about race that everyone tippy-toed > > to protect Obamba's sensibilities during the primary lest they wear the > > shameful name of "racist." Obama used it to his advantage on several > > occasions and people were often falsely accused of racism if they didn't > > support Obama. Deplorable. http://tinyurl.com/2ve8jt > > > > Hillary had no such tippy-toeing around her. It was open season to attack > > her and the so called progressive Left and the complicit DNC didn't hold > > back firing as many cheap sexist shots as they could. > > > Can you give us a few examples of these cheap sexist shots? > > Yikes! Rick just fell of the turnip truck. Either he wasn't paying attention > or he would know a sexist attack on a woman if it bit him in the ass. In > Message #219508 I referenced this: > > Melissa McEwan at Shakesville's blogspot documented 89 instances of blatant > sexist attacks on Hillary during the primary. I'm glad someone was keeping > count, if only to serve as a reminder of the perils awaiting any woman brave > enough to attempt a presidential run. If we don't learn from history, we are > doomed to repeat it. > > http://tinyurl.com/p4q7tt > http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2008/05/hillary-sexism-watch-part-eighty.\ > html > Correction: Yikes! Rick just fell of the turnip truck. Either he was NOT paying attention or he would NOT know a sexist attack on a woman if it bit him in the ass. And just to add a note lest we forget, even Barry admits Hillary endured sexist attacks as Judy so astutely observes in Message #219596: Barry: > The sexist taunts at Hillary were designed > to make her *followers* crazy. And they worked > like a charm. Nothing loses a female politician > more votes than a bunch of women running around > screaming hysterically, "They're playing dirty > with my candidate," in a national election. > Are you DERANGED? Playing dirty is a *synonym* > for "national election." Judy: So Barry admits that sexism is "playing dirty." Let's remember that. But the sexist attacks weren't just aimed at her supporters. They were designed to upset her and throw her off her game. They were also designed to make her appear ridiculous in the eyes of those who were on the fence about whom to support (particularly men; the attacks were intended to reinforce their own stereotypes of women as incapable of being presidential). And of course, the sexism of Obama's supporters and the right wing actually resulted in Hillary *gaining* votes, not losing them. Many women took a second look at Hillary *because* she was being so viciously attacked. Like Raunchy, they saw the sexism as an attack on women in general, which inspired them to stand in solidarity with her, to see her as their champion. Another point Barry misses is that this was the first time a woman has ever actually had a chance in a presidential election--indeed, was initially favored to win both the nomination and the election. This particular *kind* of "playing dirty" was entirely new in a national election, so it came as a very unpleasant surprise. It's not that we didn't expect dirty tricks, it's that we didn't expect *this* dirty trick. Progressives *claim* to support equal rights for women, but they showed they're all too ready to drop that noble posture if they perceive it's to their advantage to do so.