An FFL classic. You've got three people, one after
another--Barry, Sal, and do.rflex (actually Barry goes
twice)--indulging in what Josh Marshall of Talking
Points Memo would characterize as "up-is-downism," a
near-complete and willful reversal of reality that
they've convinced themselves to believe in. Not just
with regard to the post they're commenting on, or my
posting history here, but with regard to what happened
out in the real world in the primaries.

Talk about living in a small world in one's head! They
can't even see far enough to notice what goes on right 
in front of their noses.

It's a sickness that manifested with great virulence
during the primaries and obviously is still deeply 
embedded in the psyches of Obama supporters.

Is there a cure for it? I don't know, but if we can't
find some way to treat those who are ill and keep
them from passing the disease on to future generations,
we're in very, very deep trouble. At one time it
appeared to be quarantined among Republicans, but
clearly it escaped, and it turns out that even lefty
progressives aren't immune to it.

If anybody wants me to point out all the reality-
reversals in what follows, let me know, but I think 
most FFLers will be able to spot them easily (although,
of course, you won't have the guts to speak up to
contest them).

And of course one mustn't expect Vaj to rear up and
point out that these three posters are engaging in the
"poison-the-well fallacy"--what he characterizes as
"digital terrorism"--to beat the band.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <do.rf...@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <salsunshine@> wrote:
> > >
> > > On May 21, 2009, at 10:55 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > It occurred to me last night as I was reading Raunchy's
> > > > > post #219365 that the emotional component is not so
> > > > > much a matter of Hillary having lost as of *how* she
> > > > > lost, how incredibly unfairly and viciously she was
> > > > > treated by Obama's supporters--in the lefty blogs, by
> > > > > the Democratic Party, by the media, and of course by
> > > > > the right wingers, not to mention some of the people
> > > > > on FFL. And it wasn't just Hillary who was treated
> > > > > this way, it was her supporters as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > That left deep emotional scars (speaking of Barry's
> > > > > Cockburn quotes about "tending to cause damage").
> > > > >
> > > > > Obama himself wasn't the instigator of most of it,
> > > > > but he did almost nothing to try to stop or mitigate
> > > > > it and even encouraged it at times. That's awfully
> > > > > hard to forgive.
> > > >
> > > > Not for sane people.
> > > >
> > > > It's OVER.
> > > >
> > > > Why aren't YOU over it? Hillary certainly is.
> > > 
> > > No kidding.  Hard to believe that almost
> > > a year after Hillary conceded the nomination,
> > > and over 6 months since Obama soundly
> > > whipped McCain's ass, this insanity still goes
> > > on, complete with ugly names for Obama's
> > > supporters and a mean-spirited set of attacks
> > > on the supporters as well as Obama himself
> > > that seems to veer at times precipitously close
> > > to a personal vendetta, ie an irrational
> > > hatred that is not receptive to any kind
> > > of logical discussion.
> > > 
> > > Obama has become the new Barry. :)
> > 
> > Now THAT had me LOL.  :-)
> > 
> > Doncha *feel* for him? FIFTEEN YEARS from
> > now Obama, by then my age (63) and retired
> > gracefully from two successful terms as 
> > President, will come through New Jersey 
> > on a speaking tour and Judy, by then 103
> > (or at least looking it) will attend and
> > scream out from the audience, "Liar! Don't
> > you remember what you said in a speech
> > back in 2008? [waving a printout] I have 
> > a copy of it right here!"
> > 
> > Obama will laugh at her. But Judy, deciding
> > that his laughter and compassionate silence
> > at encountering Yet Another Crazy is sub-
> > mission, will decide that she "won" the
> > encounter. 
> > 
> > Then, having gotten a taste of "the thrill
> > of victory," she'll start stalking him all
> > over the world, appearing at every one of
> > his speaking engagements, yelling out the
> > same stuff. The Secret Service assigned to
> > Obama in retirement will offer to have her 
> > sent somewhere with padded walls, but being 
> > the compassionate mensch he is, Obama will
> > decline the offer. 
> > 
> > Finally, tired of hearing the same old shit
> > shouted by the same old windbag, the Secret
> > Service agents will take matters into their 
> > own hands and cart her off to Bellevue 
> > themselves.
> > 
> > Obama will never notice her absence, just
> > as he never noticed her presence.
> > 
> > :-)
> 
> 
> Good laughs, Barry. I don't think she realizes what a small world she lives 
> in in her head.
>


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