Who says I always end up thinking the mantra a second time? Sometimes I realize that 20 minutes have gone by lost in thought, and that's the end of my meditation.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <punditster@...> wrote : On 5/2/2014 11:33 PM, LEnglish5@... mailto:LEnglish5@... wrote: Who says I maintain attention on the mantra? > When you sit down to meditate, you consciously begin the mantra; when you realize that you're not thinking the mantra, you begin it again. So, there must be some maintenance going on, otherwise you would not remember to think the mantra again. Remembering to maintain attention attention on a thought is NOT "effortlessly thinking a thought". > Remembering to think the mantra is just like any other thought you remember. So, remembering to think the mantra is not 100% effortless. It takes some effort, no matter how slight, to think a specific thought. But, I agree that the TM teaching modality of "effortlessness" is better than concentrating on a mantra or breathing. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <punditster@...> mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 5/2/2014 2:01 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: I disagree that TM is mindfullness, and I disagree because of Marshy's intent and belief. > Mindfulness is the practice of awareness, a factor on the path to enlightenment. Mindfulness practice is inherited from the Buddhist tradition. Buddhism makes use of mantras, so by your logic mindfullness is not meditation? Go figure. This sounds almost exactly like TM: "When practicing mindfulness, for instance by watching the breath, one must remember to maintain attention on the chosen object of awareness, "faithfully returning back to refocus on that object whenever the mind wanders away from it." - B. Allen Wallace http://www.mindandlife.org/dialogues/past-conferences/ml18/ http://www.mindandlife.org/dialogues/past-conferences/ml18/ This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/ protection is active.
