yeah the word blind puts people off.
I think its relationships more than anything else, board games have
been played and therefore the sighted can relate to the same game types.
on the subject of which I'd like to see the game risk and the game
ulsas which is like monopoly, except you are trying to become the
president of a company, the looser is the cleaner.
it was simular to monopoly I even made my own board, sadly I forget
how to play but it was based on the monopoly style.
the other game is risk a strat game a lot of my sighted friends play.
those did interest me.
At 07:44 AM 4/17/2013, you wrote:
Ok. The important thing to remember is perspective.
It seems that either you are introducing the game, or your friend is
focused on the game, not having graphics. Don't say anything about
what the game doesn't have. I mean, look at Jim Kitchen's games. I
recently had a friend over who was disappointed that we weren't going
to play Kitchensinc Life. That game is pretty simple, from a mechanics
point of view. It has no graphics. It doesn't technically follow the
rules or board of Life. If I said that to my friend, would they want
to play it? Most likely not.
Instead, I did it like this, a long time ago. Hey. I want to show you
this neat game. It's called life, and it's a really good reimagining
of that boardgame. Your person is going to proceed along the board,
and you can sit back and listen, which was key at that point, since my
room was not arranged for viewing pleasure, and this was long enough
ago that I was in high school and did a lot of game playing in my
room.
I got my friends interested in the game by telling them all the neat
things that were in the games. As for your graphics obsessed friend,
tell them to play ... oh man. I can't remember the name that I was
looking for,, but tell them to play a visual novel or watch a movie if
they only care about graphics, because, as the game industry is
quickly learning, graphics don't make a game.
Many sighted people are making audiogames for themselves. I can't tell
you the amount of apps I've seen on the store for iDevices where the
point is to sit and listen rather than to play a specific game. As I
recall, the game Dimensions is not developed with blind people in
mind, we can just play the game as anyone else can, but it's audio
based.
Some audio based apps are still inaccessible to us for one reason or
another, but audiogaming is becoming rather more mainstreamed than we
might expect.
I suggest, and I might start a new topic at some point, that we
petition the audiogames.net folks to subordinate the gblind people
stuff to the audiogames stuff. For example: I can direct sighted folks
to audiogames.net, but I always have to give them the disclaimer that
there are a lot of muds and gamebooks and text adventures on that
site.
I suggest that, especially with the massive list on PCSGames site and
the Audyssey magazine getting back into the mix, that audiogames.net
be a site for audiogames rather than games for the blind or games we
can play. That way, if I want my friend to see about audiogames, they
can go to that one site and learn about games in audio, whether they
are meant for the blind, playable by the blind, accessible,
inaccessible, or whatever.
Anyway, relating to Swamp again, it's all in the perspective. If we
focus on what we don't have, we'll be pretty depressed, as will anyone
we try to talk to about our stuff.
Signed:
Dakotah Rickard
On 4/16/13, shaun everiss <sm.ever...@gmail.com> wrote:
> aah ok maybe the people I tried to introduce the games to were not
> that interested.
> oh well.
>
> At 06:15 AM 4/17/2013, you wrote:
>>I will say this. It depends very much on the person... but if I can
>>introduce sighted people to Goalball, a sport way more complex than
>>the most complex audio game... and if they can enjoy that without
>>vision, audiogames are just a step down.
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "shaun everiss" <sm.ever...@gmail.com>
>>To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 11:21 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Can a sighted person play swamp?
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>>
>>>how do you approach a sighted gamer with a game with no graphics.
>>>I havn't showed swamp in its latest reencarnation but when
>>>I showed 2.8 to my friend he had a look at the game, screwed up
>>>his face and told me that they were crappy line graphics and that
>>>he was wasting his time.
>>>same with shades of doom.
>>>if I could get over that maybe but how do you tell a sightling to
>>>not use their eyes at all on those games with no graphics.
>>>
>>>At 05:48 AM 4/17/2013, you wrote:
>>>>The first thing that would make it easier for sighted people to
>>>>play swamp is that Swamp does have graphics. And it also is
>>>>important to consider how you approach someone sighted with a game
>>>>that has no graphics.
>>>>
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